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Spook,  As a pilot, regardless of the sex of the passenger, if he/she is
about to draw blood (yours), you
would be wise to take actions to avert the violence.  In this case, it is
my believe that if she had not
physically or otherwise forced him to come down out of the clouds, they
would have become a statistic.  By
the way, if I were a passenger, and felt the PIC was displaying dangerous
behavior, If I truly felt he
were endangering my life, I'd rip his arm out of it's socket if I felt it
would help save my life.  And,
yes, I have made comment before, to the PIC, indicating I was not
comfortable with the way he was flying.
Never yet had to revert to violence.

Larry

Georgia Trehey wrote:

> On Sat, 2 Dec 2000, Larry Wilkins wrote:
>
> > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following
any advice in this forum.]----
> >
> > pumps, we went out to fuel the Colt.  It was mid-winter, and a storm
> > squall line crossed the whole sky to the north of us.  The Colt was
> > filled with luggage right up to the roof, and the pilot had a female
> > passenger.  They had just flown in from Craig, Colorado.  The pilot
had
> > been flying IFR, in the clouds.  He was headed for Provo, Utah.  The
> > carb iced up, he was losing power.  Carb heat cleared it, but about
this
> > time the passenger forced him to get closer to the ground so she could
> > avert a heart attack.
>
> About the heart attack, were you speaking literally or figuratively?
You
> must have been speaking figuratively, because if this woman really
feared
> a hear attack, I would think she would have wanted to go to the nearest
> ER to be checked out instead of getting on a bus.
>
> Not wanting to start a flame war about male-female communication
problems,
> I would like to disregard the fact that the pilot and passenger were of
> different genders.  Having said that, isn't it always up to the PIC to
> make the decisions about flying, no matter how much a passenger may
carp?
> I know that if the passenger is having a medical emergency, appropriate
> action needs to be taken but isn't it still the PIC's responsibility to
> determine what that is?  (Not the medical treatment, but the flying part
-
> unless the pilot is also medically trained.)
>
> Reading further, it seems to me that he was not taking responsibility
for
> his decisions.  You said that he headed off right into the storm.  Do
you
> know what happened to him after that?
>
> Spook

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