On 15/02/15 01:46, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> All of this is fixable with trivial CSS tweaking. [...]
> Right. The layout is simple enough so that a complete reengineering
> is overkill.

Totally agree. It's not often I get a chance to work with static pages
and page loading speed trumps glitz in this case. To me the main
"problem" is what to do with the navigation at the top. If you check
Google PageSpeed results you will see their only complaint (with CSS
and JS inline) is that the "buttons" are too close together for a touch
device, otherwise it would score 100 on my courier main page suggestion.
I've tried making my buttons even bigger but PageSpeed still won't gimme
100. See size tap targets (passes everything else)...

https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/?url=https://renta.net/courier

I think it comes down to 2 issues, what style for the top nav and then
that probably demands some rearrangment of those links. The first
javascript courier dropdown should go (not bookmarkable or SEF) and
those links get moved... somewhere else. Ie; the top nav links could
be as simple as...

 Home | Download | Documentation (or just Docs)

where Intro and Install get moved as links to the Download page and
FAQ, Wiki (the github one), Links and current dropdown links all get
moved to Documentation.

> For now, I pushed both git repos to github. We'll see what happens
> in the future.

Woohoo, thank you, from me at least :-)

> There are still some Sourceforge services that github can't really
> replace, though. Initially when I looked at it, a while ago, they
> really didn't offer any means of downloading packaged tarballs, only
> tagging commits as "releases". Looks like they might have something now.
> 
> Github also doesn't have mailing lists.

But not really needed because this current list works and I don't think
there is any reason you can't keep using the SF download service.

One tentative suggestion is to set up a cheap VPS that specializes in
running the latest release of courier and then run these mailing lists
from that instance of courier. It kind of seems appropriate to me to
manage these courier lists using courier-mlm on top of courier-mta :)

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