On Sat 09/Jul/2016 00:32:32 +0200 Gordon Messmer wrote:
> On 07/08/2016 03:04 PM, Alexei Batyr' wrote:
>>
>> Unfortunately spamers/fishers et al. already mastered SSL and STARTTLS and
>> successfully use them in brute force and other attacks.
>
> I'd expect so.  I didn't recommend TLS as a measure against brute-force
> attacks, I recommended it to protect passwords from leaking on untrusted
> networks.  Authentication should always be done on a secure channel.

CRAM-* methods are good too.  IME, spammers don't quite master them, in the 
sense that after they mostly use plain login for both brute-force attacks and 
to deploy stolen passwords.

Ale
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