@Tony - Your router setup is awesome! What brand/model is your router hardware?
Is the HTML for the calendar, paypal, twitter feed, etc, saved inside the router? Or is it hosted on a webserver outside of the router? Do you think it'd be possible to get a backup of your firmware file that we could shamelessly (or maybe shamefully ;) rip off? Sorry for the barrage of questions. We've talked often of setting something like what you have up at Conjunctured. We just didn't know the best way to go about it. @Will - Our day users get their 1st day free, after that it's $25/day. Our system for keeping records of this is very poor. Keeping a spreadsheet was simply too mundane for us to keep up. Now we keep track in our heads. Obviously that's prone to error. But like Alex suggested, we get to know everyone who comes in the door. Our wireless is protected by a password that's written on a white board inside the space. Dusty http://conjunctured.com On Jan 6, 11:35 am, "Tony Bacigalupo" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Julie! > > Anytime is good for me, generally-- just need a couple days notice and a > time. > One note: right now, the system does not require you to pay to get online-- > only to create a user/pw. The ultimate goal would be to link internet > connectivity to payment, and have ways for full-timers to bypass, as well as > a "OMG just need 20 minutes to check my email" button. > > T > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Julie <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Tony, > > > Would love to talk to you about wifidog some time before SXSW if not > > before. What's the best way to get on your sched? Just looking at > > your screenshot, looks like an efficient, automated way of tracking. > > We do manual sign-ins and process on paypal (similar to Alex, it > > sounds). We have a wifi password that all members have, of course, > > and we just provide it for drop-ins too. We change that password > > every couple of months. > > > Julie Duryea > > owner, souk > > 322 nw 6th avenue, suite 200 > > portland, oregon 97209 > > p | 503.517.6900 > > f | 503.517.6901 > > skype julieduryea > >http://www.soukllc.com > > tweet soukportland > > > On Jan 6, 6:33 am, "Tony Bacigalupo" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > New Work City uses a system built by NYC Wireless on the WifiDog > > platform. > > > It requires users to create and use a login when connecting, which can be > > > useful down the line in building out profiles and other social features. > > > > It also allows us to build a landing page after people log in, which we > > use > > > for a buy button for dropins, headlines from our blog and twitter, and a > > > calendar (screenshot here: > >http://www.nwcny.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/nycw-nwc.jpg) > > > > I wrote a quick post about it here: > >http://www.nwcny.com/blog/2009/01/nycwireless-at-new-work-city/ > > > > WifiDog should fulfill your bullet point list of needs, except perhaps > > for > > > OpenID support. > > > > Keep us posted! > > > > Tony Bacigalupo > > > New Work City > > > > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Will Norris <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I've been talking with Tara and Chris about setting up a better system > > > > for the wireless network at Citizen Space. It is one of the few > > > > (only?) spaces in San Francisco that still offers free drop-ins (at > > > > least for the time being). As such, they've never had a good system > > > > for tracking who is using the space. There is a physical guest book > > > > by the door, but few people actually use. So we've been talking about > > > > changing the network to require users to fill out a basic form before > > > > they can access the net (similar to how most public wifi hotspots > > > > work). Before I spend too much time on this, I wanted to survey the > > > > community a bit... > > > > > What are other spaces doing to control internet access at their > > > > spaces? Do you require authentication of any kind to get online? Is > > > > it simply a password written on a whiteboard in a public area of the > > > > space? Do you have individual logins for each person? > > > > > How are others tracking drop-ins? If you are charging for drop-ins, > > > > then you pretty much have to track them in order to bill them. What > > > > about those that allow free drop-ins... do you have accurate records > > > > of who is using the space and when? > > > > > Some preliminary brainstorming for a solution at Citizen Space: > > > > - paying residents should be able to get online with as minimal a > > > > barrier as possible > > > > - drop-ins should be forced to "authenticate", which would likely > > > > include filling out a basic form with contact information and a brief > > > > explanation of why they're at the space (ie. just to work, for a > > > > meetup, barcamp, etc). > > > > - after authentication, drop-ins should be allowed internet access > > > > for a set period of time (24 hours?). The next time they get online, > > > > they should have to resubmit the form, but it should probably be pre- > > > > populated with the values they used last time, to make it as simple as > > > > possible > > > > - ideally, OpenID should used for any kind of authentication. This > > > > creates a potential technical challenge at the firewall, but I think I > > > > can come up with something > > > > > My twitter followers offered up the following possible packages: > > > > - NoCatAuth [http://nocat.net/] > > > > - pfSense [http://pfsense.org/] > > > > - Wifidog [http://wifidog.org/] > > > > > Right now, I'm leaning toward Wifidog. It seems to either do > > > > everything I want, or have the flexibility that I can add it in. It > > > > has the additional advantage of being specifically designed to support > > > > a network of access points. That means, in theory, multiple coworking > > > > spaces could be connected so that users of one space could login and > > > > use the internet at other spaces. So my second set of questsions, > > > > regarding this: > > > > > Would others be interested in whatever solution we come up with, for > > > > using at your own space? I imagine some of you may be perfectly happy > > > > with whatever solution you've got, but there may be others looking for > > > > something better. If so, do you have any developer resources or > > > > expertise you'd be willing to contribute toward this effort? Would > > > > other be interested in being part of a larger network of coworking > > > > spaces like this? This ties in directly with the "coworking visa" > > > > idea that's been discussed, just on the electronic side. I think this > > > > larger network is much farther down the road, but something to keep in > > > > mind. > > > > > So that's a lot to digest I guess, but I'd love to hear any feedback > > > > or thoughts people have on this subject. Once we get an idea of what > > > > people are doing, and a plan for moving forward, we can record all of > > > > this on the coworking wiki. > > > > > -will --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
