Dusty-- *...@tony - Your router setup is awesome! What brand/model is your router > hardware?*
It's your average everyday Linksys WRT54G... but the custom firmware lets it handle lots more people than it would OTB. > *Is the HTML for the calendar, paypal, twitter feed, etc, saved inside > the router? Or is it hosted on a webserver outside of the router? * It's an iframe, hosted on NWC's server. > *Do you think it'd be possible to get a backup of your firmware file > that we could shamelessly (or maybe shamefully ;) rip off?* You can reach out to the folks at NYC Wireless (two of whom I'm copying on this email) about that. > *Sorry for the barrage of questions. We've talked often of setting > something like what you have up at Conjunctured. We just didn't know > the best way to go about it.* It's a tricky thing, and nobody's quite nailed it yet. But we're getting there, slowly. Tony > @Will - Our day users get their 1st day free, after that it's $25/day. > Our system for keeping records of this is very poor. Keeping a > spreadsheet was simply too mundane for us to keep up. Now we keep > track in our heads. Obviously that's prone to error. But like Alex > suggested, we get to know everyone who comes in the door. > > Our wireless is protected by a password that's written on a white > board inside the space. > > Dusty > http://conjunctured.com > > On Jan 6, 11:35 am, "Tony Bacigalupo" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi Julie! > > > > Anytime is good for me, generally-- just need a couple days notice and a > > time. > > One note: right now, the system does not require you to pay to get > online-- > > only to create a user/pw. The ultimate goal would be to link internet > > connectivity to payment, and have ways for full-timers to bypass, as well > as > > a "OMG just need 20 minutes to check my email" button. > > > > T > > > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Julie <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Tony, > > > > > Would love to talk to you about wifidog some time before SXSW if not > > > before. What's the best way to get on your sched? Just looking at > > > your screenshot, looks like an efficient, automated way of tracking. > > > We do manual sign-ins and process on paypal (similar to Alex, it > > > sounds). We have a wifi password that all members have, of course, > > > and we just provide it for drop-ins too. We change that password > > > every couple of months. > > > > > Julie Duryea > > > owner, souk > > > 322 nw 6th avenue, suite 200 > > > portland, oregon 97209 > > > p | 503.517.6900 > > > f | 503.517.6901 > > > skype julieduryea > > >http://www.soukllc.com > > > tweet soukportland > > > > > On Jan 6, 6:33 am, "Tony Bacigalupo" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > New Work City uses a system built by NYC Wireless on the WifiDog > > > platform. > > > > It requires users to create and use a login when connecting, which > can be > > > > useful down the line in building out profiles and other social > features. > > > > > > It also allows us to build a landing page after people log in, which > we > > > use > > > > for a buy button for dropins, headlines from our blog and twitter, > and a > > > > calendar (screenshot here: > > >http://www.nwcny.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/nycw-nwc.jpg) > > > > > > I wrote a quick post about it here: > > >http://www.nwcny.com/blog/2009/01/nycwireless-at-new-work-city/ > > > > > > WifiDog should fulfill your bullet point list of needs, except > perhaps > > > for > > > > OpenID support. > > > > > > Keep us posted! > > > > > > Tony Bacigalupo > > > > New Work City > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Will Norris <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > I've been talking with Tara and Chris about setting up a better > system > > > > > for the wireless network at Citizen Space. It is one of the few > > > > > (only?) spaces in San Francisco that still offers free drop-ins (at > > > > > least for the time being). As such, they've never had a good > system > > > > > for tracking who is using the space. There is a physical guest > book > > > > > by the door, but few people actually use. So we've been talking > about > > > > > changing the network to require users to fill out a basic form > before > > > > > they can access the net (similar to how most public wifi hotspots > > > > > work). Before I spend too much time on this, I wanted to survey > the > > > > > community a bit... > > > > > > > What are other spaces doing to control internet access at their > > > > > spaces? Do you require authentication of any kind to get online? > Is > > > > > it simply a password written on a whiteboard in a public area of > the > > > > > space? Do you have individual logins for each person? > > > > > > > How are others tracking drop-ins? If you are charging for > drop-ins, > > > > > then you pretty much have to track them in order to bill them. > What > > > > > about those that allow free drop-ins... do you have accurate > records > > > > > of who is using the space and when? > > > > > > > Some preliminary brainstorming for a solution at Citizen Space: > > > > > - paying residents should be able to get online with as minimal a > > > > > barrier as possible > > > > > - drop-ins should be forced to "authenticate", which would likely > > > > > include filling out a basic form with contact information and a > brief > > > > > explanation of why they're at the space (ie. just to work, for a > > > > > meetup, barcamp, etc). > > > > > - after authentication, drop-ins should be allowed internet > access > > > > > for a set period of time (24 hours?). The next time they get > online, > > > > > they should have to resubmit the form, but it should probably be > pre- > > > > > populated with the values they used last time, to make it as simple > as > > > > > possible > > > > > - ideally, OpenID should used for any kind of authentication. > This > > > > > creates a potential technical challenge at the firewall, but I > think I > > > > > can come up with something > > > > > > > My twitter followers offered up the following possible packages: > > > > > - NoCatAuth [http://nocat.net/] > > > > > - pfSense [http://pfsense.org/] > > > > > - Wifidog [http://wifidog.org/] > > > > > > > Right now, I'm leaning toward Wifidog. It seems to either do > > > > > everything I want, or have the flexibility that I can add it in. > It > > > > > has the additional advantage of being specifically designed to > support > > > > > a network of access points. That means, in theory, multiple > coworking > > > > > spaces could be connected so that users of one space could login > and > > > > > use the internet at other spaces. So my second set of questsions, > > > > > regarding this: > > > > > > > Would others be interested in whatever solution we come up with, > for > > > > > using at your own space? I imagine some of you may be perfectly > happy > > > > > with whatever solution you've got, but there may be others looking > for > > > > > something better. If so, do you have any developer resources or > > > > > expertise you'd be willing to contribute toward this effort? Would > > > > > other be interested in being part of a larger network of coworking > > > > > spaces like this? This ties in directly with the "coworking visa" > > > > > idea that's been discussed, just on the electronic side. I think > this > > > > > larger network is much farther down the road, but something to keep > in > > > > > mind. > > > > > > > So that's a lot to digest I guess, but I'd love to hear any > feedback > > > > > or thoughts people have on this subject. Once we get an idea of > what > > > > > people are doing, and a plan for moving forward, we can record all > of > > > > > this on the coworking wiki. > > > > > > > -will > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
