Hmm.  Will Zoho forums provide email notifications of new and updated forum 
threads?

-Mike Schinkel
Ignition Alley Atlanta Coworking
http://ignitionalley.com



On Feb 9, 2010, at 12:46 PM, John Sechrest wrote:

> The difference between mailing lists and forums is much more complex and much 
> more subtle that you are outlining here.
> 
> I have seen several efforts to move to forums blow up discussions. In 
> addition, I have also seen moves like this end up translating into a 
> biforcation of the conversation into two different groups. 
> 
> The choice of how you view data is a critical one. And I totally agree about 
> the need for a tool that helps you focus your attention well. For me, google 
> groups + gmail does this well. 
> 
> In general, I have yet to meet a forum that I like. Web based forums hide 
> information and make it harder for me to find things. I find this especially 
> true of forum sites like NING. (pet peave) 
> 
> I do not know how zoho forums work, having never used them.
> 
> For me, I am immediately suspicious when I see the word forum. Since forums 
> usually take me more time to process, take more energy to keep in context. 
> 
> I suspect it is an information processing style issue, since these are the 
> very issues you are trying to address. 
> 
> I would just urge caution. A shift like this from google groups to zoho 
> forums is likely to quietly and subtly alter who is participating, and who 
> stays connected to the group. 
> 
> I have watched other groups have a significant shift of membership with tool 
> changes like this.
> 
> Be sure you are getting what you think you are getting. And be sure you know 
> which audience you are serving with the change. 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:52 AM, Alex Hillman <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> So, Woody just suggested that an active thread be moved out of the main 
> channel so as to not disrupt others. While I think it was a good topic to 
> keep in the group's visibility, his question of "can I move this to a sub 
> folder" reminded me of something.
> 
> Google Groups kinda sucks.
> 
> To be fair, it's become our home. This is the most active repository of 
> information for coworking, and the place where I send people first to learn 
> more and meet more coworking people. But the Google Group is anything but 
> good for discovery. Spam moderation is chaos for the people who actively 
> manage it. The lack of sub-threads is annoying, and the lack of message 
> context makes it hard to know what messages to pay attention to.
> 
> Recently, the open source javascript library jQuery moved away from Google 
> Groups for a lot of these same reasons...to Zoho forums. 
> 
> I did some research and found that a Zoho forum to support our group would 
> cost $75/month, and incur a one-time $500 fee to migrate all of the existing 
> data (messages, threads, and even users) from Google Groups to Zoho. There's 
> even an option to interact with Zoho via e-mail for those of us that like 
> this.
> 
> The pros:
> Much better organization of our knowledge. The ability to set message 
> "topics" to things like "question", "introduction", "idea" would be HUGE for 
> this group.
> Easier on-boarding for new members
> Better spam moderation tools
> The cons:
> It's not free
> Since it's not free, somebody needs to pay for it, which means somebody is 
> ultimately a "keyholder"
> The cons aren't huge, but they do need to be addressed. 
> 
> I think this could be a very valuable evolution of this discussion forum that 
> we all love so much. What say you, the coworking group?
> 
> -Alex
> 
> /ah
> indyhall.org
> coworking in philadelphia
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