I'm not sure what the difference is between lead and relationship management. 
For us, it's so far the same. HR tracks the correspondences and cases 
throughout the entire process. I guess one critical component that's missing 
for us is perhaps a running checklist: on boarding stuff, exiting process, 
membership participation, etc. For now, all of this checklist is buried in the 
correspondences and cases. 


Jerome (not from an EvilBerry)

On Nov 26, 2012, at 8:40 AM, James Hackett <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> One of our data center members, John Roberts, was the founder and creator of 
> SugarCRM (http://www.sugarcrm.com/) which still has a free community version 
> you might check out.
> 
> He has also recently launched his new system X2Engine 
> (http://www.x2engine.com/), another  totally open source CRM solution.
> 
> At Cruzio, we're an ISP as well as a coworking space and have a pretty 
> well-developed billing/customer management system. But I also use Highrise -- 
> largely, as Alex says, as a lead management tool and contact database.
> 
> James
> Cruzioworks
> 
> On Nov 26, 2012, at 8:30 AM, Alex Hillman wrote:
> 
>> For all of the talk about what tools there are, I'm wondering if any of you 
>> who are using these CRM tools can share a bit about your workflow using the 
>> tools you've chosen, in detail? 
>> 
>> CRM tools, as I've experienced them, are more about lead management than 
>> relationship management and that's made them really clunky for us. 
>> 
>> I'm hoping somebody's come up with a workflow that's just not obvious to me 
>> and can share the workflow is valuable for them!
>> 
>> -Alex
>> 
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>> On Monday, November 26, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Tom Lewis wrote:
>> 
>>> On this subject, we've tried a few links between Highrise and Google mail, 
>>> and Colabspot have the most amazing chrome extension which bridges them 
>>> perfectly, allows you to send emails to a case, shows you all the history 
>>> within the google mail window, etc etc.  It's far and away the best HR to 
>>> gmail solution we've seen so far.
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, November 24, 2012 5:33:23 AM UTC, Jerome wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> This might sound blunt, but I think to "crack the CRM nut", you simply 
>>>> have to pay. 
>>>> We use HighRise HQ, but would love more customizability, reporting, etc.  
>>>> But it does generally work for us. 
>>>> There's a $5/mo plug-in for our gmail-based email to connect with HR 
>>>> directly, such as follow-up tasks, etc. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Jerome 
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>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 23, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Rogelio <[email protected]> wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>> > I'm guessing that other coworkers here have cracked the CRM nut 
>>>> > (customer relationship management), so I'm hoping the someone here 
>>>> > could recommend a solution for four remote workers that does the 
>>>> > following: 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 1) is free (zero budget as of yet - total shoe string project!) 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 2) is cool and easy ways to hook into gmail / google apps, preferably 
>>>> > with a way of seeing last emails inside CRM web GUI itself 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 3) has cool ways to remind us on prospects for follow up (since only 
>>>> > first phase of project, we're not really concerned at this point for 
>>>> > building complex funnels, loyalty programs, opportunities, inventory, 
>>>> > etc) 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 4) is web based (two use Windows, one uses Linux, and one uses Mac), 
>>>> > but also has interfaces via a smart phone app (both Android and 
>>>> > iPhone) 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 5) PREVENTS VENDOR LOCK IN! 
>>>> > 
>>>> > For what it's worth, here is what I've put up so far... 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 1) SugarCRM (keep track of contacts) - not always intuitive, but a 
>>>> > small price to pay to have some flexibility later on if/when this 
>>>> > grows.  We're not wedded to this, but it seemed like a good first step 
>>>> > while we look for other easier-to-use CRMs with better workflows / 
>>>> > integration features.  Super easy (and cheap!) install on Dreamhost. 
>>>> > Daily chron backups because I don't trust them! 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 2) iSugarCRM (iPhone) and DroidSugar (Android) 
>>>> > 
>>>> > https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/isugarcrm/id536162467?mt=8 (the one I 
>>>> > use) 
>>>> > http://goo.gl/0YNva 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 3) Boomerang / Rapportive - hooks into gmail and lets us schedule 
>>>> > emails and also see online presence of other ppl in group.  Rapportive 
>>>> > is free, but Boomerang isn't (but we each already had that). 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 4) Rondee / FreeConferenceCall / FreeScreenSharing - how we meet 
>>>> > together at different coworking spaces 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 5) Mailchimp / Survey Monkey (once we narrow down someone who is a 
>>>> > good candidate and doesn't mind being a part of what we do).  Also 
>>>> > looking into other F/OSS mailing tools once this grows, like PHPlist / 
>>>> > MailMan / OpenEEM (double opt-in, scheduling, click tracking, bounce 
>>>> > management, etc). 
>>>> > 
>>>> > http://alternativeto.net/software/surveymonkey/ 
>>>> > http://alternativeto.net/software/mailchimp/ 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 6) Usual other collab tools -- Skype, Google Docs / PiratePad, Google 
>>>> > Hangouts, Evernote, etc. 
>>>> > 
>>>> > (Goes without saying, but if I can help anyone else here and save 
>>>> > time, don't hesitate to reach out to me.  I'm also on LinkedIn.) 
>>>> > 
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