good idea, will talk to Mike.

I'm just upset that the person i talked to shut me down before i even
explained fully what we intend to do.


On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Alex Hillman
<dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com>wrote:

> That totally makes sense.
>
> FWIW, there's an argument that could be made that coworking helps its
> members grow their businesses and that when those businesses grow they're
> likely to hire. If you're describing your business as a desk
> rental/subscription rental model, it makes sense from Jerome's description
> that you should get turned down. But if you describe how your business
> model can be a catalyst for economic development (we talked about this in
> last friday's Office Hours, video here:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roBKm87wc6U), you may have a stronger
> case.
>
> At any rate, rather than speculate, I would reach out to Mike Maher from
> Benjamin's Desk  and ask about his SBA application and see how he pitched
> it. He's a super nice guy and I'm happy to have him as a neighbor here in
> Philly :)
>
>
> -Alex
>
>
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> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Jerome Chang <jer...@blankspaces.com>wrote:
>
>> Alex, my understanding is that the govt is backing these bank loans. So
>> the govt would want businesses to hire people to run the operations, not a
>> kick-back-and-collect-revenue biz model.
>>
>> Yes you could sell magazines and stuff, but that would have to amount to
>> a lot of revenue...at least equal to the coworking memberships. 1 desk =
>> $500, vs 100 magazines @ $5 each. Multiply by at least 20 desks. Print
>> magazines are dying so...
>>
>> Rena, it's possible to convince some loan officer to convince the loan
>> committee and therefore the SBA approval process, but it'd be an exception
>> than the rule.
>>
>> Jerome
>> www.BLANKSPACES.com
>>
>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 2:15 PM, "Randall G. Arnold" <
>> randall.arn...@texrat.net> wrote:
>>
>>  Which would support the idea of hosting a deli and/or magazine and
>> other related sales activities onsite.  Is training considered passive?
>> After hours rentals?
>>
>>  Randy
>>
>>
>> On April 25, 2013 at 4:05 PM Jerome Chang <jer...@blankspaces.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  An inside source once told me that the SBA doesn't finance operations
>> based on passive income. Gyms with passive membership fees get away with it
>> because they have a lot of trainers, retail sales, etc.
>>
>>  So unless you can prove that more than 50% of your business is not
>> passive, you're out of luck.
>>
>> Jerome
>>  www.BLANKSPACES.com
>>
>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Rena Tom < bob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>   Help me out, all. I just had a conversation with the NYBDC (New York
>> Business Development Corporation) which works with the SBA on lending. They
>> said the SBA won't fund coworking spaces because it's too much like a
>> landlord/subtenant situation which is not in their charter.
>>
>>  Have any of you taken a SBA loan for your space? This just sounds wonky
>> to me.
>>
>> Rena
>>
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