>
> I'm just upset that the person i talked to shut me down before i even
> explained fully what we intend to do.


Welcome to the world of entrepreneurship. If you're not getting shut down
once in a while, you're probably not trying hard enough ;)

-Alex



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On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Rena Tom <bob...@gmail.com> wrote:

> good idea, will talk to Mike.
>
> I'm just upset that the person i talked to shut me down before i even
> explained fully what we intend to do.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Alex Hillman <
> dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That totally makes sense.
>>
>> FWIW, there's an argument that could be made that coworking helps its
>> members grow their businesses and that when those businesses grow they're
>> likely to hire. If you're describing your business as a desk
>> rental/subscription rental model, it makes sense from Jerome's description
>> that you should get turned down. But if you describe how your business
>> model can be a catalyst for economic development (we talked about this in
>> last friday's Office Hours, video here:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roBKm87wc6U), you may have a stronger
>> case.
>>
>> At any rate, rather than speculate, I would reach out to Mike Maher from
>> Benjamin's Desk  and ask about his SBA application and see how he pitched
>> it. He's a super nice guy and I'm happy to have him as a neighbor here in
>> Philly :)
>>
>>
>> -Alex
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Jerome Chang <jer...@blankspaces.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Alex, my understanding is that the govt is backing these bank loans. So
>>> the govt would want businesses to hire people to run the operations, not a
>>> kick-back-and-collect-revenue biz model.
>>>
>>> Yes you could sell magazines and stuff, but that would have to amount to
>>> a lot of revenue...at least equal to the coworking memberships. 1 desk =
>>> $500, vs 100 magazines @ $5 each. Multiply by at least 20 desks. Print
>>> magazines are dying so...
>>>
>>> Rena, it's possible to convince some loan officer to convince the loan
>>> committee and therefore the SBA approval process, but it'd be an exception
>>> than the rule.
>>>
>>> Jerome
>>> www.BLANKSPACES.com
>>>
>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 2:15 PM, "Randall G. Arnold" <
>>> randall.arn...@texrat.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Which would support the idea of hosting a deli and/or magazine and
>>> other related sales activities onsite.  Is training considered passive?
>>> After hours rentals?
>>>
>>>  Randy
>>>
>>>
>>> On April 25, 2013 at 4:05 PM Jerome Chang <jer...@blankspaces.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  An inside source once told me that the SBA doesn't finance operations
>>> based on passive income. Gyms with passive membership fees get away with it
>>> because they have a lot of trainers, retail sales, etc.
>>>
>>>  So unless you can prove that more than 50% of your business is not
>>> passive, you're out of luck.
>>>
>>> Jerome
>>>  www.BLANKSPACES.com
>>>
>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Rena Tom < bob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>   Help me out, all. I just had a conversation with the NYBDC (New York
>>> Business Development Corporation) which works with the SBA on lending. They
>>> said the SBA won't fund coworking spaces because it's too much like a
>>> landlord/subtenant situation which is not in their charter.
>>>
>>>  Have any of you taken a SBA loan for your space? This just sounds wonky
>>> to me.
>>>
>>> Rena
>>>
>>>
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