I wish there was a like button for all this great advice. Thanks Alex, 
you've really provided us with some insightful solutions. 

On Thursday, June 20, 2013 1:47:08 PM UTC-4, Alex Hillman wrote:
>
> 2 most important pieces of advice I can give you right now: don't 
> overthink it, and get the community involved.
>
> 1) We spent a ton of time building a 3d mockup for our recent expansion 
> and ended up blowing it up once we started moving furniture in anyway. 
>
> 2) However you decide to "play" with layouts before hand, do it with your 
> members. This is an EASY opportunity to have them get to take a sense of 
> ownership over the process and look at the space as something more than a 
> cheap desk rental option.
>
> -Alex
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> /ah
> indyhall.org
> coworking in philadelphia
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:37 PM, <[email protected] <javascript:>>wrote:
>
>> this is all very informative for us and is helping us a lot in figuring 
>> out how to proceed with the space. We appreciate all the feedback thus far. 
>>
>> Jerome, we're definitely gonna draw it on paper and Alex we're definitely 
>> gonna try to book an appointment to get into the space. However, our issue 
>> is that the space is currently divided into units with drywall (mortgage 
>> company was the previous tenant) so playing around with cardboard boxes may 
>> not work. We obviously won't have the walls there if we move in but right 
>> now the open concept doesn't exist. Other options??? I was thinking (if it 
>> doesn't take long) to replicate the space with cardboard on a smaller scale 
>> with miniature desks. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, June 20, 2013 1:02:33 PM UTC-4, Alex Hillman wrote:
>>
>>> I very much agree with Jerome on this.
>>>
>>> Square feet per desk doesn't tell you anything about the shape of the 
>>> room, how desks fit in it, or how people can interact. 
>>>
>>> Square feet is a constraint, but it's not a proxy for usage. We redesign 
>>> our floorplan on a regular basis and every time find new, more effective 
>>> ways to use the space and none of that can be learned from square footage.
>>>
>>> Drawing things on paper is good. Another thing you can do is, if you 
>>> have access to the space, to cut pieces of cardboard to the size of your 
>>> desks and play with layouts on the floor. That will give you an even better 
>>> feel for how much room around desks you'll need for things to feel 
>>> comfortable, especially if you're not as experienced as Jerome or myself in 
>>> laying things out on paper. 
>>>
>>> -Alex
>>>
>>> -Alex
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> /ah
>>> indyhall.org
>>> coworking in philadelphia
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:48 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> oooh okay that makes a lot more sense. sorry for the confusion. 
>>>> Conveniently we were given a floor plan for the space we're looking into 
>>>> and during the process of designing the layout we assumed getting s/f per 
>>>> desk was essential just so we knew how many desks we could fit. 
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, June 20, 2013 12:20:19 PM UTC-4, Jerome wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> wait wait wait.  I didn't say to buy anything.
>>>>> Get/draw a floor plan, and design a desk layout.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jerome
>>>>> ______________
>>>>> BLANKSPACES
>>>>> "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself"
>>>>>
>>>>> www.blankspaces.com
>>>>> 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036
>>>>> 323.330.9505 (office) 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 20, 2013, at 9:12 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jerome,
>>>>>
>>>>> Your right, when we visited the space we could envision how the layout 
>>>>> would look like. Buying desks first and setting up the space would be a 
>>>>> viable option.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Harman
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 6:50:20 PM UTC-4, Jerome wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would recommend laying out your desks, vs. trying to assign a # per 
>>>>>> desk.
>>>>>> A space that size is much easier to comprehend its realities than, 
>>>>>> say, 100,000sf where you'd want to estimate sf/desk.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jerome
>>>>>> ______________
>>>>>> BLANKSPACES
>>>>>> "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.blankspaces.com
>>>>>> 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036
>>>>>> 323.330.9505 (office) 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2013, at 2:49 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First I would like to express how happy and amazed I am at finding 
>>>>>> this community online. Me and my colleagues stumbled upon the concept of 
>>>>>> coworking spaces about a month ago and we have formed our own initiative 
>>>>>> to 
>>>>>> opening one in Ontario. From what I've seen, this Coworking group is 
>>>>>> full 
>>>>>> of helpful individuals who have answered questions on a lot of topics 
>>>>>> and I 
>>>>>> am also inclined to ask my own throughout our  company's development. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So here goes my first question :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have found a location that is 2664 sqft (Rent= 4262) and after 
>>>>>> taking out the board room, private office and kitchen we have 1210 sqft 
>>>>>> to 
>>>>>> use for desks. What I wanted to know was how much space should we 
>>>>>> allocate 
>>>>>> for each desk? I know many of you have said 100sqft but If thats the 
>>>>>> case 
>>>>>> we would only be able to offer 12 desks at $455 (Rent + Other fixed and 
>>>>>> variable costs). However, if we offer 50sqft per desk we would be able 
>>>>>> to 
>>>>>> accommodate 24 desks and offer a monthly price of $230. This includes 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> use of everything and it generates break even for us. 
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