Absolutely no argument with any of your points made Jon.  I should clarify: my
contention was specific to the space/place semantic debate.

In my opinion the concern expressed earlier over empty space is (outside of
economic needs) largely overwrought.  There is no one size fits all design
approach-- what could work very well in Berkley will absolutely not fly in Fort
Worth, Texas.  Here, massive amounts of empty space could very well mean you
know your claustrophobic community.  ;)

Randy (creative community guy, son of a San Diego architect)

> On September 24, 2014 at 11:29 AM Jonathan Stever <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>     Randy, I'd agree that "place vs. space" isn't the issue,
> 
>     But the earlier discussion on this thread around "community vs. space"
> hits at the core of what coworking is about. Community is the differentiator
> between coworking and other office substitutes: McDonalds, Starbucks, Regus,
> home offices, corporate office wonderlands, whatever...
> 
>     Design is incredibly important. Design can accelerate interactions,
> inspire lateral thinking, increase seratonin through natural sunlight,
> simtulate productivity, etc etc etc, but a well-designed office space does not
> a coworking space make.
> 
>     Jon
> 
>     On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Randall Arnold <
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
> 
>         > > 
> >         I think the conversation so far has shown that the "space vs place"
> > debate is largely over pointless, polarizing, counterproductive semantics.
> > 
> >         People are definitely attracted to places.
> > 
> >         Many like a place that has some (elbow) space.
> > 
> >         This topic could be kicked back and forth for who knows how long,
> > but IMO it's a distraction that takes eyes off of the prize... which is
> > selling a largely-uninformed public on the benefits of coworking (or
> > co-working, if you're not into the whole brevity thing).
> > 
> >         Randy
> > 
> >             > > > 
> > >             On September 24, 2014 at 10:38 AM Alex Linsker
> > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > >             Is there interest in a discussion of the branding of "place"
> > > instead of "space"? I have a coworking place. I think it's very important
> > > to people new to the concept and place leads to a warmer feel.
> > > 
> > >             http://www.thefreedictionary.com/_/dict.aspx?rd=1&word=place
> > > <http://www.thefreedictionary.com/_/dict.aspx?rd=1&word=place>
> > > 
> > >             http://www.thefreedictionary.com/_/dict.aspx?word=space
> > > 
> > >             I don't sell space in a community, I sell place in a
> > > community.
> > > 
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