In a message dated 8/30/00 12:58:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

<< You don't like the marxists beginning of a plan, because we haven't
 succeeded yet.   >>

If I remember correctly, marxism has had over a half century on one continent 
(at least) and most of the natural resources of that area with which to 
succeed, if it was going to succeed anywhere. Or was it simply the wrong 
century? Or were there hints of corruption within the leadership--kinda like 
capitalism, don't ya know? Is it possible that marxism does not make 
sufficient allowances for human frailty? 
Sorry, to be petty, but I grew up on readings of 'Animal Farm' (my uncle was 
one of Joe McCarthy's little 'pinkoes', and I don't recall any of his cronies 
as particularly noble. They were just ordinary working guys who came to 
maturity in the depression, and were bitter and resentful after their service 
in the war. If you think the Nam vets were done in--you should have heard 
some of the few survivors of Anzio and Monte Cassino talk about the Italian 
Church and the blackmarket priests. The Wild Ones legend was not based on 
fairy tales. They were real guys who could no longer fit in anywhere other 
than combat.
I'm running on here because I spent the day in a software seminar and the 
instructor had been hit with Agent Orange in Nam, and his son was gassed in 
Desert Storm.
We had an interesting conversation about military promises vs.military 
betrayal.
Joan

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