I'll let my friends know that I'm a liberal, they would be suprised.
One more time for those who I seem to have trouble communicating with
effectively. I believe we need to be fighting battles on many fronts. Some
of these battles will be alongside those who do not think fundemental
change is necessary. I WANT RADICAL FUNDEMENTAL CHANGE, but I am not
comfortable waiting around for just the right set of circumstances to occur.
A case in point would be the protests we've seen against powerful
international organizations. Do you think we should not support these people
just because many of them are not {yet} at the point of saying that we
should scrap the whole system? I choose to support actions that I believe
will benefit our world now, BUT I also keep in mind that my ultimate goal is
to see the end of capitalism.
Aaron
>
>Tony Abdo wrote:
>
> > Aaron, I got to tell you, Man, this idea liberals have of being
> > pragmatists, while more revolution oriented activists are seen as
> > sitting around with their thumbs up their asses, is unbridled poppycock.
> >
>
>I realized about 30 years ago that the chief weakness of reformism is its
>utter failure
>to achieve reforms. (One can learn this from Lenin -- but not by just or
>even mostly
>by reading his "big" works of theory. It emerges from reading page by page
>in order
>the first 10 to 15 volumes of his CW -- seeing him engaged in the daily
>practice of
>making sense of the struggle as it unfolded.) I mention here just three
>points among
>many that have to be taken into consideration in constructing tactics and
>strategy.
>First, we (however "we" is defined) are never going to have a majority --
>and to win
>our victories (small or large) must depend on the determination of the
>masses who do
>rally to the struggle. Secondly, voluntarism (the idea that by our
>correctness we can
>as it were force people into action) is utterly hopeless. In fact the
>conditions that
>generate popular resistance are almost never predictable. Rather we must be
>ready to
>respond to such upsurges when they occur (as they will) behind our backs as
>it were.
>And third -- it is always worthwhile, when possible, to strive to make life
>a bit better for
>those who suffer now. But those who aim only at that (as.apparently Aaron
>does) will
>achieve nothing, not even a few extra rations or vials of anti-biotic for
>the dying.
>Tony is certainly correct on the utter utopianism of "pragmatic" liberals.
>
>Carrol
>
>
>
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