Aaron, I got to tell you, Man, this idea liberals have of being
pragmatists, while more revolution oriented activists are seen as
sitting around with their thumbs up their asses, is unbridled poppycock.
My argument with you, is against your idea of working via small
compromises with power, for small incremental changes. That's a
road to obtaining zip, make that capital letter ZIP.
Don't work to weaken the system instead of working to beat the system.
Is that really all you want, changes in the system? Change comes in
bursts. as the system is broken down, not in little granted-from-the-top
reforms.
So stop writing down your list of requests on the petition to hand to
the Czar, and get with the program of struggling for victory.
My apologies to all the list members for this overly abstract
discussion. It's just that liberals awhine, should be slapped in
the face. HARD. Work with liberals, gasp))))..... do we have
to???
Tony
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Tony, I agree completely that the capitalist system must go, lets get
that straight. What I don't agree with is that we all sit around with
are thumbs up our asses until the crash rips the foundations of
capitalism apart. That day may still be a ways off, and I personally
think we can do a lot of good, even if capitalism remains strong for
some time, although we should, and probably must, be working to weaken
the system even as we fight for changes within it.
������My argument with you is your all or nothing attitude,
which I see as self defeating. Why not work towards making a better
world now, this may mean collaboration with social dems, and (gasp!)
even liberals. And yes I do agree that many gains won will be attacked
immediately under our current system. However at the same time we will
be building a bigger, more effective mass movement that will be
essential if our goal is to get rid of this rotten system.
������Bye for now Tony, I need a drink,
������������������Aaron.
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