>From: Carrol Cox

>But only capitalist investors are moved by visions of the future.

"Only?"  This is so absolutist and looney as to be laughable were it not so 
dangerously into denial.

>Resistance to capitalism must be driven by resistance to the
>*present*, not hope for or fear of the future.

Says who? Some stale old book written 100 years before the perception of 
ecological issues? Resistance is driven by MANY factors. You might as well 
be an X-tian, Carrol, and begin quoting us scripture. Start with Jeremiah.

>Revolution, if it is ever to come, must come *before* the kind
>of crash Mark foresees. We need a revolution of rising
>expectations -- not visions of disaster -- to bring about
>successful resistance to capital.
>
>Carrol

Then "revolution" will NOT come. Period. You have too few years left to come 
to some dim understanding that it is not JUST capitalism that threatens you, 
but the effects of 6 billion people eating up the planet. Have you even 
OPENED Mark's just-posted Ted Trainer piece?

We live not in a static world where you can indulge yourself in the luxury 
of waiting for things to get better as your head-in the-sand pronouncements 
and recommendations imply. Ignoring change, the nature of change and the 
rate of change going on all around your world is another reiteration of the 
very same "vison of the future" you are castigating Mark over. Change is 
occurring in the present. I seem to remember you just posting something 
about the nature of *events* in history. Apparently this one is too large 
for you to perceive.

Of COURSE opposing capitalism is necessary, but your single note of 
"resistance to capital", even if it were played until it came to fruition, 
is but a single element of a far larger issue. There is no one right 
approach, and focusing solely on a small piece of ideology to the exclusion 
of other approaches and other visions is not just foolish, it is insane.

Tom
(grinding the axe, Mark.)
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