Here's where I disagree / agree with Carrol:

>>> "Carrol Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 09/10 8:21 PM >>>
 People get involved in mass
action when they have experienced some lightening of the
load, some escape
from a world in which action seems hopeless. 

Don't agree. Most revolutions seem to happen when conditions
are almost unbearable, like Russia 1917 for example. In fact
I believe that the formula is simply this: 
revolution = economic crisis + revolutionary ideology.

If you want to stop those disasters you are so worried
about, you need political power. That political power will
only come from a mass movement. That mass
movement, once underway, can learn to confront those
environmental damages
and can become concerned about the future of humanity. 

This is where I think Carrol is indisputably right, however
much I might disagree with him on all sorts of other things.
There is only one way to bring about a political and social
change and that is through a mass movement. Those who think
that the few people on this list can influence world trends
through only buying this or that product or recycling this
or that or lobbying their congressman or MP are really
living in a world of sweet dreams. The point of the list
cannot be to "do something" immediately - you can do those
things on a personal level without the list - what the list
does is to enable us to share ideas on an international
level. Hopefully those ideas will in time be fed into the
political movements of the left.

Tahir
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
              

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