Mark Jones wrote:
> James Farmelant wrote:
>
> > I used to hold to the idea that when things got bad enough, we'd
> > finally see things start to happen. I'm no longer convinced that that
> > will be the case.
>
> Wishing for good times won't make them happen if they aren't *going* to
> happen. Is it your argument that there is no energy crisis, no global
> warming, no ecocide, or that these three phenomena are not interrelated? If
> not then what is your point?
>
> The Crashlist is not a forum for wishful thinking.
Mark, I'm not the only one who has told you over and over again
that we agree with you on your technical arguments. So it is absurd
to write, "Is it your argument that there is no energy crisis, no global
warming, no ecocide?" Of course that is not our argument.
It is our argument that you are engaged in wishful thinking to keep
repeating this point without seeming to realize that there exist real
political problems in doing anything about it. Tom misunderstood
what I mean by "screaming" the other day. I did not accuse him
of screaming at me. I accused both him and you of thinking that by
screaming at the world you were accomplishing anything.
Disaster is coming. Disaster is coming. Disaster is coming. You and
Tom repeat that over and over again and seem to think that in doing
so you are making a political point.
Some of us are saying, "Damn yes, disaster is coming, and unless we
can raise a political army *before* the disaster comes, there will be
no way to deal with it when it comes."
You and Tom are engaging in wishful thinking. You seem to think that
disaster automatically prevents disaster.
Carrol
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