To crashlist subscribers:

        My proposal would be to return a large part of the world's land
area to occupation by stateless societies.  In 1492, all of today's United
States and Canada (with the possible exception of the current U.S.
Southwest) contained societies free of the state, that is, authority
imposing its will from the outside on a number of small local communities.
        For a vision of what my proposal might look like, see Ursula 
Le Guin's novella, "Man of the People," contained in _Four Ways to
Forgiveness_ (1995).  In this fictional account, there are small-scale,
traditional societies, and also a high-tech network.  Some people might be
surprised at the fact that in the novella, everyone on the planet Hain has
access to their version of the internet.
        I think that it is obvious that even without global warming, the
limits on nature's treasures make impossible both W. W. Rostow's
prediction of high mass consumption in every country, and also the
Marxist utopia of universal abundance leading to the withering away of
the state.  People need to envision a different alternative.
        For some of the benefits of small communities, see: Lewis Mumford,
"Authoritarian and Democratic Technics," _Technology and Culture_
5: 1-8 (Winter 1964).  I think that many conservative people would be
surprised at how many people, given a choice, would opt for the personal
autonomy of a stateless society.  I also think that many anarchists would
be surprised at how many people would prefer the security of life under
the state.
                                        --Milton Takei




On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I assure you I'd be the first to agree "capitalism sux." From an biocentric 
> environmentalist viewpoint, I probably hold it in lower esteem than even many 
> of the self-proclaimed Marxists here. You're going to get your wish no matter 
> how arduous or lackadaisical your effort. I merely want to know: What next?
> 
> Tom Warren has already suggested a few concrete steps: bioregionalism, to 
> succor any remnant of social collapse; Earth awareness, to help ensure 
> there'll be regions that might support those who survive the crash. I agree 
> with Mark and Jay Hanson that there is little likelihood of preventing a 
> major readjustment in the global social construct (dieoff). But I have not 
> seen here any appreciation of that, nor any suggestions as to how this might 
> be ameliorated, nor how the resulting recovery might look.
> 
> Destroying capitalism is a fine first step. Then what? 
> 
> Hallyx


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