Tom,

>1) there has been a basic problem in how marxists use "relative scarcity" 
>and "resources" as you do the above. It has implications of an 
>anthropocentric negativity marxists seem not to understand. Resources for 
>whom? Scarcity because .... what?

OK. Resources are not our passive things but living systems. But what's the 
connection between scarcity and anthropocentrism?

>2)looking for the root causes of the environmental AND the economic disaster 
>that DOES concern you must begin 10,000 years before the beginnings of 
>capitalism. Starting *only* with the industrial revolution or even feudalism 
>is misguided and counterproductive if you wish to survive on the planet 
>beyond 2100.

Until industrialisation, never a crash has put the survival of the specie at risk, 
right? 
(I assume that this "you" in your last sentence means "your specie".)

>2)Adopting a totally anthropocentric position, with political energy 
>expended at the expense of *immediate* action to preserve what can be 
>preserved of the biosphere, is the road to disaster.

Agreed. But I don't understand how do you get from that to...

>A biocentric 
>understanding must be included at the heart of any effort, even one to bring 
>about "the revolution", otherwise we are doomed.

Why "any"?

Julien


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