I honestly don't think we differ much. I have a serious problem with the idea that
"it is Mark's duty
to ensure that it is not his own rulers who do it instead. " This would have meant
for instance, campaigning in support of Pinochet while mass demonstrations against
him were going on in London. That just doesn't feel right.
But it's all a question of context, and the context is how do you create
oppositional and ultimately revolutuionary forces which have real political autonomy
and are not hostages to the political chicanery of comprador/quisling national
elites which wrap themselves in the flag?
Mark
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> Sent: 10 February 2001 21:46
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [CrashList] Z-Net Flunks Test on Depleted Uranium
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>
> En relacisn a Re: [CrashList] Z-Net Flunks Test on Depleted Ura,
> el 10 Feb 01, a las 8:48, Carrol B Cox dijo:
>
> >
> > But, Nestor, I think it of some importance to be prepared
> > to recognize, when they appear, situations which represent
> > either (1) an exception to the principles we share here
> > (probably rare) OR (2) not an instance in which the principles
> > have no reference whatever -- and it is just possible that
> > the Borodin case is an instance of the latter. It is merely a
> > routine criminal case -- being handled in the way the Marc Rich
> > case should have been handled.
>
>
> I am eager to accept the possibility. Moreover, I stated on my first posting
> that even in the case of my "own" rogues I was in a disposition to accept that.
> An example that may be found fitting is that of the criminal Cavallo by name
> (but so far as I know bearing no relation with Cavallo the economist other than
> their common belonging to the Ugly Side) who was captured in Mexico and is
> being judged in Spain. I even stated that the fact that Argentine criminals
> were somehow defended by the institutional set up in Argentina made it harder
> to defend sovereignty of Argentina, establishing a _de facto_ intervention into
> our own system of Justice, and I even compared this situation with the more
> favourable one that was prevailing in Chile (though I also pointed to its
> uglier class contents: if they can indulge in such a display of justice, the
> ruling classes in Chile must be fully aware that there is no possibility that a
> popular reaction takes the results of the Pinochet trial and throw it at the
> face of Pinochet's sponsors, inheritors and continuators).
>
> However, I must state here that these musings are reasonable for me, in
> Argentina. They don't seem reasonable, from my point of view, for Mark, in
> London. Truth is always concrete. What I am requesting is, as Bolmvar once
> requested, "Allow us to live through our Middle Ages by ourselves". I believe
> that it is my duty to make justice to my own Quislings. And it is Mark's duty
> to ensure that it is not his own rulers who do it instead. This is my position,
> in a nutshell.
>
> I still believe, with Vladimir Lenin, that the division between imperialist
> countries and the colonial and semicolonial world is the basic division of our
> current global system. I only draw the conclusions, with the highest respect
> for comrades who are waging a battle in the belly of the Beast.
>
> Hugs, and glad to debate in these terms,
>
>
>
> Nistor Miguel Gorojovsky
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