En relación a RE: [CrashList] Z-Net Flunks Test on Depleted Ura,
el 11 Feb 01, a las 8:47, Mark Jones dijo:
> I honestly don't think we differ much.
Neither do I. It is simply a matter of perspective, Mark. While I can see
issues you see with more difficulties, you can target my blind spots with
amazing precission. This is what I would term "intellectual internationalism".
> I have a serious problem with the idea
> that "it is Mark's duty to ensure that it is not his own rulers who do it
> instead. " This would have meant for instance, campaigning in support of
> Pinochet while mass demonstrations against him were going on in London. That
> just doesn't feel right.
Not necessarily, nay, not at all. Campaigning against the right of the employer
of Pinochet to be, at the same time, his judge, is campaigning just against the
employer, and leaving Pinochet not off the hook, but off the _employer's_ hook.
You may be sure that our own hooks are quite more terrible than those you can
get in England. All the _good_ ones have been exported by your bourgeoisie to
the periphery. Hooks and hoods...
>
> But it's all a question of context, and the context is how do you create
> oppositional and ultimately revolutuionary forces which have real political
> autonomy and are not hostages to the political chicanery of comprador/quisling
> national elites which wrap themselves in the flag?
Yes, this is the zillion rupees question. But the answer, though it is not easy
to turn into militant practice, is not _that_ difficult. They, simply, don't
deserve that flag. One must show this in the practice of politics. On the other
side, there is a different point to be made, on which I am sure you will be in
agreement with me. After the wave of retreat and defeats, few national elites
remain that can struggle for that flag. Most former "national" bourgeoisies in
the semicolonial world (never a very serious partner for anyone, neither the
imperialists against local workers nor the workers against imperialist, by the
way) have been either crushed or turned into transmission belts for the "world
markets", that is for Shylocks. So that they will most probably oppose the
movement from its very inception.
The issue here is that by keeping the right of imperialists to intervene -even
against our own rogues- we don't help the movement to start ahead again, which
is the best situation for chameleons (sorry, dear chameleons!) to remain with
their "progressive" outlook in the eyes of the masses. Most probably, the wave
of resistence that is now sweeping most of the semicolonial world will, if we
don't fight for our right to have an unintervened political scenario here,
relapse into a muddy backwater and come to an end. We need to turn it into a
tidal wave, and in order to do so the first step is to make it very clear that
_any_ intervention of imperialists (even of righteous imperialist courts) in
our affairs is a form of intervention. So that, when you support the right of
the courts in London, NYC, Barcelona or Paris to judge their own rogues you are
actually helping the tide to wear away. And this is -of course- exactly what
you, Mark, DO NOT want to do.
Now, it is not by yelling histerically at G. Soros on TV (as Hebe de Bonafini
is so proud to have done) that one fights against Soros. The basis of his power
in the Third World (or whatever you call it) is ideological dictatorship. Hebe
may well scream at him a thousand times, but while she does not uncover the
relationship between the murders during the 70s, the "human rights" agenda
imposed from the imperialist centers (during the Jimmy Carter era), and the
trials of the employees by the employers, she is simply helping Soros rule the
world because she does not make the movement at the colonies advance a single
step ahead against foreign domination and control of our economies, nay, of our
minds.
One of the reasons why I am absolutely convinced that this thread has been so
productive, indeed, is that most of what I have said above has already been
worked and reworked by you, Mark, on this and other lists. I insist: of course
we are in good agreement (not "full", thank God, life would be so dull...) We
both have seen the true face of "democracy" at work. You have seen it in the
fSU, I have seen it in my own country.
A hug,
Néstor Miguel Gorojovsky
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