Carrol wrote:

>These facts will be incorporated into political practice only within a
>mass movement already energized by other issues

Yeah, I remember discussing this and I more or less agree. That's why I'm voting 
red and not green (yeah, I know... voting is useless blah blah blah). We're not going 
to picket the malls and tell people to dump their cars to preserve India's water 
sources, right? I just thought that something new might come up. I'm not convinced 
that things can't change and that the following is going to be true forever:

>That is, any 'movement' that "makes these facts the basis and guiding
>compass of [its] politics" will never mobilize sufficient political
>weight to be of any significance. 

Maybe when some of the facts will leave theory to enter reality some will find a 
way...

Julien

BTW, Mr. Proyect, would you stop personal attacks?


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