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And given the scale of the problem of ecocide it's not JUST capitalism,
either, as Julien says, it IS a matter of human nature however defined or
socially determined that is. We have evolved to maximise our niche and unless
our species re-evolves pretty damn quick we'll maximise ourselves out of
existence.

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CB: Human nature cannot just be defined however. We have not evolved such that we 
maximise our niche by instinct, but rather we maximize it based on a specific 
historical tradition. Maximization is not in our genes. So, it is a historical 
tradition not an instinct that must be undone, nor is that historical tradition 
universal in the species. Being clear on this difference is critical in making 
successful the effort to change the world and save it from ecological catastrophe.


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