G'day Julien,
 
>Same for other cereals, beans, and vegetables. Are those useless
>proteins???

No.  But the thing with proteins is that the human body doesn't quite produce
all the constituent amino acids it needs.  Meat has 'em all, I believe - as
would various combinations of vegetables, legumes, nuts and such - but you do
have to know your business if you're to survive healthily on a vegan diet.  I
dare say you'd also need a substantial selection of groceries from which to
choose, and, no doubt, the resources to buy 'em.  A few vitamins could be
neglected, too - vitamin B12 is a famous example, if memory serves.  Anyway,
meat's a very efficient source of protein, and it'd be a big pity if we were
to find out that (market)efficiency in farming was essentially unsustainable,
as this would deprive the urban poor first and foremost.  Many on the more
romantic-idyll wing of the green movement see some sort of divine retribution
in recent discoveries of foot'n'mouth in intensively farmed mammals and
inexplicably high tissue-toxicity in aquaculture-bred fish.  I don't say
they're not right, because I wouldn't have a clue, but this all wants sane and
quick sorting, for sure.

> BTW, I side with you on the "Zzzzzz" issue even if I enjoy a little  
>>"hairsplitting" from time to time. As far as I'm concerned it isn't   >boring.

Oh, me, too!  I'm just very busy right now (hence the ridiculous times at
which I post), and am probably just resentful I can't join in on the fun.  I
have done more than a few rounds on Stalin and Stalinism, though, and I've
learned very little, and seen very few minds changed in the slightest.

Well, the galahs are stirring, the magpies are chortling, and my shed-window's
resident tree frog has made for her boudoir.  Time to grab an hour's kip
before the loinfruit come bounding in ...

Night all,
Rob.

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