Dear Patrick,
That sounds great. May be a mapping to the CRM would resolve the open
issues?
best,
Martin
On 6/3/2012 5:08 μμ, [email protected] wrote:
Dear all,
I can't speak for the museum community, but to return to my familiar
obsessions, there are in libraries many examples of drawings,
sketchbooks, etc. that document planned theatrical performances that
eventually never took place. For instance, there are documents about
Edward Gordon Craig's project for a mise-en-scene of Bach's Matthew
Passion both at the BnF <
http://archivesetmanuscrits.bnf.fr/ead.html?id=FRBNFEAD000004234&c=FRBNFEAD000004234_a181
> and at the University of California Los Angeles <
<http://archivesetmanuscrits.bnf.fr/ead.html?id=FRBNFEAD000004234&c=FRBNFEAD000004234_a181>http://www.oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/kt7f59p0kd/dsc/?query=matthew;dsc.position=1#hitNum1
>, and researchers would certainly benefit from information
integration.
<http://www.oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/kt7f59p0kd/dsc/?query=matthew;dsc.position=1#hitNum1>
Best wishes,
Patrick
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Re: [Crm-sig] Retrospective and Planned Events
Dear Oeyvind,
This is a use case, we have implemented at FORTH a logic with 3
time-spans as indicated below for the Germanische Nationalmuseum,
but I am not sure to which degree there is an information integration
need in the community at that level. I'd like to have a real user
stand up and say: These are my data...there is a benefit is
standardizing the interpretation...
Cheers,
Martin
On 6/3/2012 2:51 μμ, Øyvind Eide wrote:
> Dear Joao and Martin,
>
> I assume planned travel would be a use case, e.g., if a museum plans
an expedition with a more or less specified route; then either the whole
expeditions is cancelled, or the route is changed (as Amundsen's
decision to go to the South Pole instead of the other one). I have no
use cases connected to museum documentation, however; so it may be that
it is just a theoretical possibility.
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Øyvind Eide
> Department of Digital Humanities, King's College London
> Unit for Digital Documentation, University of Oslo
>
> Den 6. mars 2012 kl. 13:36 skrev martin:
>
>> Dear Joao,
>>
>> No evolution so far. What we miss is a relevant use case, an
existing practice of documenting planned events and their
>> realization, where the option is relevant that the event does not
take place or is significantly different from what was planned.
>> Is anyone aware of such cases? For instance, recently, I have seen a
raised interest in buildings not built. More precisely, many large
building projects include distinct competitive plans. 3D Modelling
allows to visualize such plans.
>>
>> One view is to create a "Real or Future Event", which may change
classification to "Real" or to "Abandoned", but the identity condition
between plan and realization poses narrow limits to possible semantics.
However, it deals relatively well with events that have started but not
yet ended.
>>
>> Another view is to explicate temporal realization plans as
properties of a specialization of E29: There are 3 times:
>> The time-span during which the plan was maintained (intended), the
time-span for which the plan was planned to be realized,
>> which may change frequently , and the time the plan was regarded to
be realized or not. I suspect that a sort of
>> "situation semantics" as in OIO, ("ontology of information objects")
might be the right thing for the realization, i.e., not an
>> event in the narrower sense, but a goal-oriented condition on reality.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> On 28/2/2012 4:47 μμ, Joao Oliveira Lima wrote:
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> In the message [
http://lists.ics.forth.gr/pipermail/crm-sig/2008-September/001158.html
], Martin Doerr says that would "be interesting to discuss planned
events as extension of the CRM". There is any evolution in this direction?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Joao Alberto de Oliveira Lima
>>>
>>>
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