Dear Vladimir,
You're absolutely right that the procedure could be improved by adequate
IT. If you know of suitable S/W, that would be most welcome.
We also appreciate co-development. Since we provide at FORTH services to
CIDOC for free, we are also limited in the efforts we can put in.
We can coordinate, but not do all jobs.
The solution is concentrating forces with a tight communication and
participation, avoiding diverging activities. I'd regard it as unlucky,
if you and other partners interested could not participate in the next
CRM-SIG meeting.
We are aware that the recording of the justifications of decisions could
be improved. We have discussed sound recording. However, writing such
minutes requires considerable time and skills. We would VERY much
appreciate if more partners would contribute to minutes writing. This
is currently our bottle neck, and not that meeting time is not enough.
On 3/1/2014 1:17 μμ, Chryssoula Bekiari wrote:
Dear Vladimir
I think the issues you mentioned are under the numbers 156 and 229, and
these issues are on the list.
happy new year
Chryssoula
On 1/1/2014 5:55 μμ, Vladimir Alexiev wrote:
I hope you all had a Merry Christmas and a very happy New Year!
You may find the minutes from the last CIDOC-CRM meeting in
http://www.cidoc-crm.org/special_interest_meetings.html#MINUTES-2013October21
http://www.cidoc-crm.org/docs/29th-meeting-presentations/RulesForCommunication.docx
This is an excellent document that encourages anyone to raise issues
for electronic voting.
However, I have doubts about the efficiency of issue tracking on this
mailing list and at the issue list:
http://www.cidoc-crm.org/work_progress.php
A good example is this issue raised by me 25m ago and re-raised by
Athina Krisotaki 8m ago:
- Nov 2011: ISSUE: "P43 has dimension" should apply to E1 Entity, not
E70 Thing
- Apr 2013: issue 223
- Apr 2013: issue 223 "P43 has dimension" should apply to E1 Entity,
not E70 Thing
It is still not in the issue list.
Other problems:
- One cannot contribute directly to the discussion on an issue but has
to rely on someone manually carrying information over from the mailing
list.
- The justifications of particular resolutions are not recorded in detail
- When the resolution is taken in a face to face meeting, one cannot
contribute unless physically present (the electronic voting should
alleviate this)
I'll be preparing a proposal for a COST Action to support the work of
the CRM SIG
with funding for meetings, workshops, summer schools, individual
trips, electronic communication.
** So I will appreciate all your thoughts and comments on how this
aspect of the work can be improved.
- I've seen excellent examples of integrated issue tracking at the W3C
work groups. They have regular online chats, and a robot watches all
raised issues and tasks, and enters them into a tracker. Another robot
watches mailing list traffic and cross-links all emails mentioning a
particular issue. Maybe we can get and deploy their software.
- Another option would be a dedicated issue tracker such as Jira, the
one in Google Projects, etc
Kindest regards!
Vladimir
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