Dear Christian-Emil
Please indicate a scope note for what you mean by "design". My first
interpretation
would be something like a "series product type" or "mass product type"
or so.
Best,
Martin
On 23/11/2014 4:58 μμ, Christian-Emil Smith Ore wrote:
Hi
Discussions can be clearifying. With respect to coins and other
symbols/representations of value. In the Middle Ages, the value of farms in
Norway was listed as volume units of butter and so as estimated taxation of
farms, the Great Plague (mid-14th century) changed this system, . In early
modern time the value was expressed in cow skins. The naturalia were not used
as currency but as abstract indicators of value. Thus coins, banknotes, shells,
cacao beans and whatnot can be used as money. This is not the concern of the
discussion.
We apparently agree that coins and banknotes are mass produced objects and
especially medals and banknotes can carry images that are pieces of art or at
least artistic expressions that are subject to IPR legislation. These rights
have of course to be sorted out and bought before bank notes are produced and
put in circulation (Hitler by the way got quite a lot of his income form the
use of his portrait on German stamps). See also
http://snohetta.com/project/200-norways-new-banknotes .
The scope note I referred to was the scope note of E3 Expression mentioning that an image can be an
expression. The main point of disagreement seems to be whether F3 Manifestation Product Type can be
used in connection with the production of coins (and other mass produced objects). The scope note
of F3 Manifestation Product Type( see below). The very first sentence limit the scope " This
class comprises the definitions of publication products." I have no problem to accept that a
bicycle, a car, a backpack and a coin are not "publication products". There are of course
borderline cases like a milk carton with a printed text (e.g. a cartoon) on it. I also accept that
stamps and bank notes are in best (worst) cases such a borderline case.
The F3 Manifestation Product Type is a sub type of E55 Type. The rights to "
definitions of publication product" are regulated by IPR legislations etc. Thus F3
Manifestation Product Type is a sub type of E72 Legal Object.
CIDOC CRM does not have a class for the design of things. E29 Design or Procedure is an
(sub class of ) information object " This class comprises documented plans for the
execution of actions in order to achieve a result of a specific quality, form or
contents. In particular it comprises plans for deliberate human activities that may
result in the modification or production of instances of E24 Physical Thing". There
is a gap here. Maybe CIDOC CRM should be extended with a class called Design which is a
sub class of E55 Type and a subclass og E72 Legal Object. In addition one will need some
new properties . F3 Manifestation Product Type could then be a sub class of this new
class.
C-E
F3 Manifestation Product Type:
This class comprises the definitions of publication products.
An instance of F3 Manifestation Product Type is the "species", and all copies of a given
object are "specimens" of it. An instance of F3 Manifestation Product Type defines all of
the features or traits that instances of F5 Item normally display in order that they may be
recognised as copies of a particular publication. However, due to production problems or subsequent
events, one or more instances of F5 Item may not exhibit all these features or traits; yet such
instances still retain their relationship to the same instance of F3 Manifestation Product Type.
The features that characterise a given instance of F3 Manifestation Product
Type include: one instance of F24 Publication Expression, containing one or
more than one instance of F2 Expression, reflecting the authors' content of the
manifestation and all additional input by the publisher; and the appropriate
types of physical features for that form of the object. For example, hardcover
and paperback are two distinct publications (i.e. two distinct instances of F3
Manifestation Product Type) even though authorial and editorial content are
otherwise identical in both publications. The activity of cataloguing aims at
the most accurate listing of features or traits of an instance of F3
Manifestation Product Type that are sufficient to distinguish it from another
instance of F3 Manifestation Product Type.
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