Hi
Well, crm:E78_Collection attracts so much attention either because it is important or it has problems, or both :-) (Second thought: we can say that the guy burying a hoard had a "collection development plan": he planed to "develop", the hoard, retrieving it after some time and spending the coins :-) True that crm:E19_Physical_Object "includes all aggregates of objects", but I feel the need of something like crm:Fx_Assemblage between crm:E19_Physical_Object and E78_Collection, because I would like to make a clear (conceptual) distinction between: <helmet> <crm:Py_is_component_of> <armor> or <coin> < crm:Py_is_component_of > <hoard> and <wheel> <crm:P46i_forms_part_of> <car> So, I would like a crm:Fx_Assemblage exactly for the reason you invoke: „We should only use a more specific class, if we expect the respective additional properties to be relevant for querying.". Cheers, Dan On 29 November 2014 at 21:07, martin <[email protected]> wrote: > Continuing: > > I don't know, why E78 Collection attracts so much attention. The scope > note of > E19 Physical Object says: > > "The class also includes all aggregates of objects made for functional > purposes of whatever kind, independent of physical coherence, such as a set > of chessmen. Typically, instances of E19 Physical Object can be moved (if > not too heavy)." > > The CRM is not a terminological system to classify things. It is made to > provide relevant properties. We should only use a more specific class, if > we expect the respective additional properties to be relevant for > querying. To say that an E19 "has type: Hoard" should be enough. Only if > we want to specify a curator and an E87 Curation Activity with a curation > plan, using E78 Collection would be adequate. The less classes we use, the > more effective the queries. > > Best, > > Martin > > > On 29/11/2014 2:45 μμ, Christian-Emil Smith Ore wrote: > > In the case a curator in a museum buries his collection, a hoard may be > considered as as a collection. The collection class is intended for museum > collections, see the examples in the scope note. > > C-E > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Crm-sig [mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Dan Matei > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:30 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Crm-sig] A hoard as crm:E78_Collection ? > > Friends > > I have to say that a particular coin is a member of a particular hoard. I > googled > to see how others are dealing with that, but... > > I'm tempted to: > > <coin> <crm:P46i_forms_part_of> <hoard> > > <hoard> <rdf:type> <crm:E78_Collection> > > abusing a bit the E78 scope note: > > "This class comprises aggregations of instances of E18 Physical Thing that are > assembled and maintained (“curated” and “preserved,” in museological > terminology) by one or more instances of E39 Actor over time for a specific > purpose and audience, and according to a particular collection development > plan." > > > The "... according to a particular collection development plan." troubles me. > Can we say that the guy burying a hoard had a "collection development plan" ? > > There is a better practice for modelling that ? > > Dan > > PS. Not to mention that I would like to associate the discovery event with the > hoard, not with the coin. > > _______________________________________________ > Crm-sig mailing > [email protected]http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig > > > > -- > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Dr. Martin Doerr | Vox:+30(2810)391625 | > Research Director | Fax:+30(2810)391638 | > | Email: [email protected] | > | > Center for Cultural Informatics | > Information Systems Laboratory | > Institute of Computer Science | > Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) | > | > N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, | > GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece | > | > Web-site: http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl | > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > Crm-sig mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Matei Institutul Național al Patrimoniului (National Heritage Institute) - București Fundația Gellu Naum TermRom - Asociația Română de Terminologie
