Can I then transfer ownership of an E30 Right? No, as you transfer ownership of 
Physical Things (E18), not of Propositional (E89), Conceptual (E28), Man-Made 
(E71), Things (E70).
If Martin transferred copyright to a publisher … then Martin no longer 
possesses the instance of Copyrightness.  Or more familiarly, ownership … the 
right of ownership is transferred by an Acquisition. One could argue that 
custody is a Right. The JPG Museum has legal custody of Irises, and could 
transfer that right to another Museum for an Exhibition.

As soon as the Right is an instance of some specific class of Right, rather 
than the holding of it, we seem to crash headlong into the rest of the model 
whereby activities transfer rights to objects and model the current state of 
those rights.

On the other hand, if E30 were the Period of holding of the Right, it would fit 
in nicely.  The Acquisition transfers ownership of the object as always, and 
starts the period of ownership. The period of ownership is the holding of the 
right of ownership over the object… thereby completing our ternary relation of 
Right/Object/Actor.  Which can’t be otherwise expressed, as it is not an 
Activity (no intentional action) and Period/Event do not have appropriate links 
to objects/actors.  (P11 and P12 on Event are very weak compared to 
is_subject_to!)

If E30 were a subclass of E5 Event, and subject_to was sub property of P12i, 
and possesses P11i, these problems would go away :)

Rob


On 2/28/17, 12:22 PM, "Stephen Stead" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Hi Robert
    I may be splitting hairs here but my reading of your example wordings are 
not quite what is meant.
    So for your Martin example my wording would be "The particular instance of 
copyright, on this particular thing, that is held by Martin" so it is not the 
act of holding that is represented by the class but the thing that is held. I 
hope that makes it clearer.
    The query pattern looks correct to me.
    CC licenses would, to my understanding, be types of E30 Right and so 
E30-P2-E55 would be correct.
    Rgds
    SdS

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    -----Original Message-----
    From: Crm-sig [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert 
Sanderson
    Sent: 28 February 2017 19:50
    To: [email protected]
    Cc: 'David Newbury' <[email protected]>
    Subject: [Crm-sig] Rights model

    Dear all,

    Given the current model, I believe that E30 Right is an instance of the 
holding of a Right, rather than the concept of the Right itself?  For example, 
E30 is not “Copyright” or “Apache 2.0” or “Ownership” … it is “The holding of 
copyright of an object by Martin”, “the use of Apache 2.0 for some code by 
Rob”, or “Ownership of a house by Emma”.

    If this is not intended to be the case, can someone provide an example in 
RDF (your serialization preference is fine) that demonstrates two different 
people holding two different rights over the same object?

    Given that … we are expected to then use P2_has_type to refer to the sort 
of Right, and thus queries should look for: ?object P104_is_subject_to ?right . 
?right P2_has_type <actual_right> .
    If so, how would one refer to the Creative Commons licenses? Still with P2?

    Many thanks!

    Rob


    Example of P104/P105/P75: 
    {
      "@context": "https://linked.art/ns/context/1/full.jsonld";, 
      "@id": "https://linked.art/example/object/31";, 
      "@type": "crm:E22_Man-Made_Object", 
      "rdfs:label": "Object", 
      "crm:P104_is_subject_to": [
        "https://linked.art/example/Right/0";, 
        "https://linked.art/example/Right/1";
      ], 
      "crm:P105_right_held_by": [
        {
          "@id": "https://linked.art/example/actor/6";, 
          "@type": "crm:E39_Actor", 
          "rdfs:label": "Owner", 
          "crm:P75_possesses": {
            "@id": "https://linked.art/example/Right/0";, 
            "@type": "crm:E30_Right", 
            "rdfs:label": "Ownership Right by Owner of Object"
          }
        }, 
        {
          "@id": "https://linked.art/example/actor/7";, 
          "@type": "crm:E39_Actor", 
          "rdfs:label": "Holder", 
          "crm:P75_possesses": {
            "@id": "https://linked.art/example/Right/1";, 
            "@type": "crm:E30_Right", 
            "rdfs:label": "Copyright by Holder of Object['s information object]"
          }
        }
      ]
    }


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