I agree that the opaque terms equally disadvantage everyone. No one has any benefit at all.
Following this line of thinking, we could be even more opaque by using UUIDs instead of almost memorable numbers, requiring that everyone use software tools to work with the CRM and no one could look at the data directly with any way of understanding it without those internationalized and accessible tools. This would enforce the best practice of multilingualism and not unfairly advantage people who have memorized the numbers or can speak English. Rob From: Crm-sig <[email protected]> on behalf of "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Friday, July 20, 2018 at 8:51 AM To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE Label-free RDF classes PLEASE VOTE Dear Martin, dear all, On behalf of BnF, I vote YES. The DOREMUS project demonstrated that label-free classes and properties are very important, as renaming them is very costly, as well as damaging for dissemination. For instance, the renaming of "M14_Medium_Of_Performance" into "M14_Medium_of_Performance" (no capital "o") was a nightmare for our IT people as well as for those users who had already begun disseminating our data. Plus, opaque names encourage users to go and read the documentation so as to really understand the scope of what they are using, instead of just assuming the meaning of a class or property based on the label only. That is especially true for non-native English speakers: I believe supporting multilinguism was precisely the reason why WikiData opted for opaque codes, and I think this was a sound decision. Best wishes, Mélanie Roche Metadata Department Bibliothèque nationale de France De : Martin Doerr <[email protected]> A : crm-sig <[email protected]> Date : 19/07/2018 18:45 Objet : [Crm-sig] ISSUE Label-free RDF classes PLEASE VOTE Envoyé par : "Crm-sig" <[email protected]> ________________________________ Dear All, The current text "Expressing the CIDOC Conceptual Reference Model in RDF" (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zCGZ4iBzekcEYo4Dy0hI8CrZ7dTkMD2rJaxavtEOET0/edit?ts=5b50b922) contains the phrase: "In addition, for convenience of implementation we have defined number-only classes and properties e.g. “E63” or “P2”, and declared each of them to be equivalent to the corresponding full form" In the past, this option was provided and widely rejected by users. I do not know of any installation using it. It was proposed again because CRM-SIG reserves the right to change labels without changing the code ("E63", "P2" etc.), in cases when the meaning is preserved but the existing label causes confusion and can be replaced by a more fitting or at least less confusing one. These changes are very rare, and explicit in the amendment of the respective version. Those of you who support: "In addition, for convenience of implementation we have defined number-only classes and properties e.g. “E63” or “P2”, and declared each of them to be equivalent to the corresponding full form" please vote YES. Those of you who support: "The English label is part of the definition of the RDF classes and properties. Number-only classes and properties e.g. “E63” or “P2”, are not provided". Other means of supporting migration between label versions to be discussed. please vote NO. (Those who believe the issue is not sufficiently formulated please vote "VETO". One or more "VETO" will stop the e-mail vote as a whole and postpone it to the next physical meeting) Best Martin -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Martin Doerr | Vox:+30(2810)391625 | Research Director | Fax:+30(2810)391638 | | Email: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>| | Center for Cultural Informatics | Information Systems Laboratory | Institute of Computer Science | Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) | | N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, | GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece | | Web-site: http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl | -------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Crm-sig mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig ________________________________ Exposition Picasso et la danse<http://www.bnf.fr/fr/evenements_et_culture/anx_expositions/f.picasso_et_danse.html> - du 19 juin au 16 septembre 2018 - BnF - Bibliothèque-musée de l'Opéra Avant d'imprimer, pensez à l'environnement.
