A recent example of the usefulness of such a property is from the integration of the 3 condition survey databases of the Ashmolean Museum where we were trying to identify the percentage of the collection which requires conservation work across metal objects, scrolls and textiles. Each condition survey had different options for "general condition". E.g. what was "good - average - bad" in one, was "excellent - good - poor" in another. One query could be: how many objects have condition marked with an option which does not have an ordinal follower (i.e. the last in each list).
I agree with George about not assigning value in the label. Why would "large" be after "small"? In fact, in conservation "good" is almost always before "poor". I think the same applies to inferior/superior. I would suggest: ordinally after (ordinaly before) skos:OrderedCollection looks good, but isn't too closely linked to RDF? I am reading that it depends on RDF collections and any reasoning might be too generic. Happy New Year. Thanasis On 04/01/2019 15:00, Thomas Francart wrote: > Hello > > Le jeu. 3 janv. 2019 à 19:05, Martin Doerr <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit : > > Dear All, > > Very nice all that, but the critical question for a concept to enter > CRM base is: > > What is the scientific question in an information integration > environment, that needs this property to make the relevant > connection/ inference, > > and further: > > Why is that proposed for CRM base and not for SKOS? > > > SKOS already deals with this use-case using skos:OrderedCollection. > > Thomas > > > and finally: > > What is the coverage of problems that benefit from this property? > > These concerns are part of the methodology we follow, and most > substantial. We must make sure they appear in the "principles". > > Best, > > Martin > > On 1/3/2019 7:32 PM, Stephen Stead wrote: >> >> Excellent then the revised property, scope note and examples would >> be:-____ >> >> __ __ >> >> *Pxx conceptually follows (conceptually precedes)____* >> >> Domain: E55 Type____ >> >> Range: E55 Type____ >> >> Quantification: many to many (0,n:0,n)____ >> >> __ __ >> >> This property allows instances of E55 Type to be declared as >> having an order relative to other instances of E55 Type, without >> necessarily having a specific value associated with either >> instance. This allows, for example, for an E55 Type instance >> representing the concept of "good" to follow the E55 Type instance >> representing the concept of "average". This property is >> transitive, and thus if "average" follows "poor", then "good" also >> follows "poor". In the domain of statistics, types that >> participate in this kind of relationship are called "Ordinal >> Variables"; as opposed to those without order which are called >> "Nominal Variables". This property allows for queries that select >> based on the relative position of participating E55 Types.____ >> >> __ __ >> >> Examples:____ >> >> * Good (E55) /conceptually follows/ Average (E55)____ >> >> * Map Scale 1:10000 (E55) /conceptually follows/ Map Scale >> 1:20000 (E55)____ >> >> * Fire Hazard Rating 4 (E55) /conceptually follows/ Fire Hazard >> Rating 3 (E55)____ >> >> __ __ >> >> How does that seem?____ >> >> Rgds____ >> >> SdS____ >> >> __ __ >> >> Stephen Stead____ >> >> Director____ >> >> Paveprime Ltd____ >> >> 35 Downs Court Rd____ >> >> Purley, Surrey ____ >> >> UK, CR8 1BF____ >> >> Tel +44 20 8668 3075 ____ >> >> Fax +44 20 8763 1739____ >> >> Mob +44 7802 755 013____ >> >> E-mail [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>____ >> >> LinkedIn Profile https://www.linkedin.com/in/steads/____ >> >> __ __ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Crm-sig mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig > > > -- > ------------------------------------ > Dr. Martin Doerr > > Honorary Head of the > Center for Cultural Informatics > > Information Systems Laboratory > Institute of Computer Science > Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) > > N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, > GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece > > Vox:+30(2810)391625 > Email:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Web-site:http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl > > _______________________________________________ > Crm-sig mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig > > > > -- > * > * > *Thomas Francart* -*SPARNA* > Web de _données_ | Architecture de l'_information_ | Accès aux > _connaissances_ > blog : blog.sparna.fr <http://blog.sparna.fr>, site : sparna.fr > <http://sparna.fr>, linkedin : fr.linkedin.com/in/thomasfrancart > <https://fr.linkedin.com/in/thomasfrancart> > tel : +33 (0)6.71.11.25.97, skype : francartthomas > > _______________________________________________ > Crm-sig mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig > This email and any attachments are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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