Hi all,

In my scenario, there is metadata for the produced shapes from an ESRI
system. So the ESRI system produces the SP5s always digitally.

Also in my scenario, the actual recording tool doesn't allow multi
instantiation, so that would mean having to make a new class or ignoring
CRMdig (and just describe the object as E73).

This is no problem, I agree on further thought that it is true that not
every SP5 is a D1, so indeed we can't assert it. It's just that in many use
scenarios, that is likely to be the case. So probably a micro extension
with 'Digital Geometric Place Expression' might be the solution to my
problem or just ignoring CRMdig!

Cheers

George

On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 1:40 PM Stephen Stead <[email protected]> wrote:

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> *From:* Crm-sig <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Hiebel,
> Gerald
> *Sent:* 07 October 2020 06:45
> *To:* George Bruseker <[email protected]>; crm-sig <
> [email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling Question: SP5 Geometric Place
> Expression and D1 Digital Object
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> Dear George,
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> I believe you are right that nowadays most SP5 will be D1 and have been
> created in a digital process, lots of times as GPS measurements or derived
> from digital sources.
>
> But it may have been created from analog measurements too, or measured out
> of a map. Making SP5 isA D1 would exclude these cases, wouldn`t it?
>
> I believe the main point is to be able to attach the provenance and
> creation process (an E65) of the SP5 to understand if it is sensible to be
> used in a specific context.
>
> Do you have a case, where you would need the SP5 to be a D1 by definition?
>
> Best,
>
> Gerald
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> *From: *Crm-sig <[email protected]> on behalf of "george.
> bruseker" <[email protected]>
> *Date: *Tuesday, 6. October 2020 at 14:49
> *To: *crm-sig <[email protected]>
> *Subject: *[Crm-sig] Modelling Question: SP5 Geometric Place Expression
> and D1 Digital Object
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> Just a question here. SP5 Geometric Place Expression is to my
> understanding the class we would use to describe a line, polygon etc. that
> is created in an information system in order to express a declarative place
> SP6 that we are using to approximate a real place E53.
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>
> I note that SP5 is a subclass of: E73 Information Object ,E47 Spatial
> Coordinates, Geometry ,
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> E94 Space Primitive
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> I understand then that SP5 is both a geometric value and also an
> information object.
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>
>
> My question is: can/should there be a harmonization between family models
> such that SP5 isA D1 Digital Object. I ask this because in actual practice
> I assume that most SP5 will arise out of a digital process and therefore,
> we may want to make this connection.
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> Opinions / thoughts?
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> Sincerely,
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> George
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