Hi George,

On 10/19/2020 10:52 AM, George Bruseker wrote:
Dear Martin,

The scope note reads nicely.

Questions:

1) why domain and range E73. If this does not count for things analogue then shouldn't it be E72 to D1? Do we just not do this because it is a reach out from base to family model? Does this raise the problem again of the limits of models? I think it would be very good for CRM to have ready solutions for very standard problems of representation. This property seems to go in that direction, but I wonder if it then raises the question of if a D1 should move up into base?
I propose that it does count for things with analogue parts, it simply does not provide a content identity to the analogue parts, the typical illustrations and analogue layout. For instance, take the "Hobbit" in e-book edition without illustrations, and ask if the text is identical with the original, with that of a pdf version rendering the original images, and with that of a digital copy of the original.  It does count for paper editions. Therefore it is more general than P190.

Needs some good examples, but any scientific publication available in .doc and .pdf  does the job.

Best,

Martin

2) would this be a sub property of p190 and if not, why not?

Best,

George

On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 9:53 PM Martin Doerr <mar...@ics.forth.gr <mailto:mar...@ics.forth.gr>> wrote:

    Dear All,

    Here my trial for a property "P190 prime" :

    Pxxx has representative content

    Domain:

    E73 <#m_2438614881349597616__heading=h.338fx5o> Information Object

    Range:

    E73 <#m_2438614881349597616__heading=h.338fx5o> Information Object

    Subproperty of:

    E73 <#m_2438614881349597616__heading=h.338fx5o> Information
    Object. P165i is incorporated in (incorporates): E73
    <#m_2438614881349597616__heading=h.338fx5o> Information Object

    Quantification:

    many to many (0,n:0,n)

    Scope note:

    This property associates an instance of E73
    <#m_2438614881349597616__heading=h.338fx5o> Information Object
    with a complete, identifying representation of its content in the
    form of another instance of E73
    <#m_2438614881349597616__heading=h.338fx5o> Information Object.

    This property only applies to instances of E73
    <#m_2438614881349597616__heading=h.338fx5o> Information Object
    that can completely be represented by discrete symbols, in
    contrast to analogue information. The representing object may be
    more specific than the symbolic level defining the identity
    condition of the represented. This depends on the type of the
    information object represented. For instance, if a text has type
    "Modern Greek character and punctuation marks sequence ", it may
    be represented in a formatted file with particular fonts, meaning
    however only the sequence of Greek letters. Any additional
    analogue elements contained in the representing object will not
    regarded to be part of the represented.

    As another example, if the represented object has type "English
    words sequence", American English or British English spelling
    variants may be chosen to represent the English word "colour"
    without defining a different symbolic object.

    In a knowledge base, typically, the represented object will appear
    as a URI without a corresponding file, whereas the representing
    one will appear by the URI of a binary encoded file existing
    outside the knowledge base proper, or even a paper edition.

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