On 10/19/2020 7:56 PM, George Bruseker wrote:
Dear Martin,
Ok so how does it perform the function of supporting how to model a
file? Does p190 then become the property that exclusively handles blobs?
Hi George,
I think I propose something that works for files as well. The question
is, do we mean the binary identity of an E73, or another one?
P190 is for the identity of the inline content, the String value. If a
blob is modelled as a String or as a copy of an imported file, is
another question.
I think I have to add another phrase that a binary E73 defined by a URI
for a file has bit-wise identity (checksum), and nothing else. But this
touches issues of embedded metadata that are not our business.
Cheers,
martin
Cheers,
George
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 7:54 PM Martin Doerr <[email protected]
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Hi George,
On 10/19/2020 10:52 AM, George Bruseker wrote:
Dear Martin,
The scope note reads nicely.
Questions:
1) why domain and range E73. If this does not count for things
analogue then shouldn't it be E72 to D1? Do we just not do this
because it is a reach out from base to family model? Does this
raise the problem again of the limits of models? I think it would
be very good for CRM to have ready solutions for very standard
problems of representation. This property seems to go in that
direction, but I wonder if it then raises the question of if a D1
should move up into base?
I propose that it does count for things with analogue parts, it
simply does not provide a content identity to the analogue parts,
the typical illustrations and analogue layout. For instance, take
the "Hobbit" in e-book edition without illustrations, and ask if
the text is identical with the original, with that of a pdf
version rendering the original images, and with that of a digital
copy of the original. It does count for paper editions. Therefore
it is more general than P190.
Needs some good examples, but any scientific publication available
in .doc and .pdf does the job.
Best,
Martin
2) would this be a sub property of p190 and if not, why not?
Best,
George
On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 9:53 PM Martin Doerr <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Dear All,
Here my trial for a property "P190 prime" :
Pxxx has representative content
Domain:
E73
<#m_-7571583975876991028_m_2438614881349597616__heading=h.338fx5o>
Information Object
Range:
E73
<#m_-7571583975876991028_m_2438614881349597616__heading=h.338fx5o>
Information Object
Subproperty of:
E73
<#m_-7571583975876991028_m_2438614881349597616__heading=h.338fx5o>
Information Object. P165i is incorporated in (incorporates):
E73
<#m_-7571583975876991028_m_2438614881349597616__heading=h.338fx5o>
Information Object
Quantification:
many to many (0,n:0,n)
Scope note:
This property associates an instance of E73
<#m_-7571583975876991028_m_2438614881349597616__heading=h.338fx5o>
Information Object with a complete, identifying
representation of its content in the form of another instance
of E73
<#m_-7571583975876991028_m_2438614881349597616__heading=h.338fx5o>
Information Object.
This property only applies to instances of E73
<#m_-7571583975876991028_m_2438614881349597616__heading=h.338fx5o>
Information Object that can completely be represented by
discrete symbols, in contrast to analogue information. The
representing object may be more specific than the symbolic
level defining the identity condition of the represented.
This depends on the type of the information object
represented. For instance, if a text has type "Modern Greek
character and punctuation marks sequence ", it may be
represented in a formatted file with particular fonts,
meaning however only the sequence of Greek letters. Any
additional analogue elements contained in the representing
object will not regarded to be part of the represented.
As another example, if the represented object has type
"English words sequence", American English or British English
spelling variants may be chosen to represent the English word
"colour" without defining a different symbolic object.
In a knowledge base, typically, the represented object will
appear as a URI without a corresponding file, whereas the
representing one will appear by the URI of a binary encoded
file existing outside the knowledge base proper, or even a
paper edition.
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Center for Cultural Informatics
Information Systems Laboratory
Institute of Computer Science
Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)
N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton,
GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece
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