Dear Martin, Ok so how does it perform the function of supporting how to model a file? Does p190 then become the property that exclusively handles blobs?
Cheers, George On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 7:54 PM Martin Doerr <mar...@ics.forth.gr> wrote: > Hi George, > > On 10/19/2020 10:52 AM, George Bruseker wrote: > > Dear Martin, > > The scope note reads nicely. > > Questions: > > 1) why domain and range E73. If this does not count for things analogue > then shouldn't it be E72 to D1? Do we just not do this because it is a > reach out from base to family model? Does this raise the problem again of > the limits of models? I think it would be very good for CRM to have ready > solutions for very standard problems of representation. This property seems > to go in that direction, but I wonder if it then raises the question of if > a D1 should move up into base? > > I propose that it does count for things with analogue parts, it simply > does not provide a content identity to the analogue parts, the typical > illustrations and analogue layout. For instance, take the "Hobbit" in > e-book edition without illustrations, and ask if the text is identical with > the original, with that of a pdf version rendering the original images, and > with that of a digital copy of the original. It does count for paper > editions. Therefore it is more general than P190. > > Needs some good examples, but any scientific publication available in .doc > and .pdf does the job. > > Best, > > Martin > > > 2) would this be a sub property of p190 and if not, why not? > > Best, > > George > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 9:53 PM Martin Doerr <mar...@ics.forth.gr> wrote: > >> Dear All, >> >> Here my trial for a property "P190 prime" : >> >> Pxxx has representative content >> >> Domain: >> >> E73 <#m_-7571583975876991028_m_2438614881349597616__heading=h.338fx5o> >> Information Object >> >> Range: >> >> E73 <#m_-7571583975876991028_m_2438614881349597616__heading=h.338fx5o> >> Information Object >> >> Subproperty of: >> >> E73 <#m_-7571583975876991028_m_2438614881349597616__heading=h.338fx5o> >> Information Object. P165i is incorporated in (incorporates): E73 >> <#m_-7571583975876991028_m_2438614881349597616__heading=h.338fx5o> >> Information Object >> >> Quantification: >> >> many to many (0,n:0,n) >> >> Scope note: >> >> This property associates an instance of E73 >> <#m_-7571583975876991028_m_2438614881349597616__heading=h.338fx5o> >> Information Object with a complete, identifying representation of its >> content in the form of another instance of E73 >> <#m_-7571583975876991028_m_2438614881349597616__heading=h.338fx5o> >> Information Object. >> >> This property only applies to instances of E73 >> <#m_-7571583975876991028_m_2438614881349597616__heading=h.338fx5o> >> Information Object that can completely be represented by discrete symbols, >> in contrast to analogue information. The representing object may be more >> specific than the symbolic level defining the identity condition of the >> represented. This depends on the type of the information object >> represented. For instance, if a text has type "Modern Greek character and >> punctuation marks sequence ", it may be represented in a formatted file >> with particular fonts, meaning however only the sequence of Greek letters. >> Any additional analogue elements contained in the representing object will >> not regarded to be part of the represented. >> >> As another example, if the represented object has type "English words >> sequence", American English or British English spelling variants may be >> chosen to represent the English word "colour" without defining a different >> symbolic object. >> >> In a knowledge base, typically, the represented object will appear as a >> URI without a corresponding file, whereas the representing one will appear >> by the URI of a binary encoded file existing outside the knowledge base >> proper, or even a paper edition. >> >> -- >> ------------------------------------ >> Dr. Martin Doerr >> >> Honorary Head of the >> Center for Cultural Informatics >> >> Information Systems Laboratory >> Institute of Computer Science >> Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) >> >> N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, >> GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece >> >> Vox:+30(2810)391625 >> Email: mar...@ics.forth.gr >> Web-site: http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Crm-sig mailing list >> Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr >> http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig >> > > > -- > ------------------------------------ > Dr. Martin Doerr > > Honorary Head of the > Center for Cultural Informatics > > Information Systems Laboratory > Institute of Computer Science > Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) > > N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, > GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece > > Vox:+30(2810)391625 > Email: mar...@ics.forth.gr > Web-site: http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl > >
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