On 12/09/2015 04:58 PM, Doug Schaefer wrote:
You bring up a great point about the Toolbar. It’s the most obvious
affect of the tragedy of the commons, and it’s why I’m having a
personal war against it. Do these buttons really need to be in the
face of the user all the time? How often are any of these actually
used versus the real estate they take up. Wouldn’t it look better if
we had fewer toolbar buttons but make them a little bit larger to make
them easier to understand for new users? How do we make this better?
I've watched a newish Eclipse user (regular NetBeans users) taking an
Eclipse IDE JEE and installing JBoss Tools in it. Then seeing a very
crowded toolbar.
He wasn't very annoyed about the more-than-humanly-sortable numbers of
items in toolbar, he actually even told me that it was fine because he
expected that. And his immediate reaction was just to try to hide some
of those items. And that's where he felt a bad experience: he didn't
manage to find out how to hide toolbar buttons. The first place he
looked for was the right click on the toolbar, and he was disappointed
to not see the way to customize toolbar there -I tracked this in
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=477670 and there's a
pending patch-, then he went into menus and didn't find anything about
toolbar. The right menu to choose was "Customize Perspective" but it's
really not something a newish user can guess.
So IMO, rather than debating on the content of the toolbar, things on
which all of us will never agree, it's more important to empower the
user in customizing it. Eclipse IDE already has this ability to
customize toolbar. Just making it more accessible might be enough for at
least this one user. Just having a fix
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=477670 would be a more
important progress for toolbar than brainstorming about what to keep
in/move out.
--
Mickael Istria
Eclipse developer at JBoss, by Red Hat <http://www.jboss.org/tools>
My blog <http://mickaelistria.wordpress.com> - My Tweets
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