Hi, Regarding “You should have heard what the UX designers we were working with though of the current Eclipse look and feel (a bunch of crazy Swedes from Malmo :) ). They insisted that all images should be no smaller than 32 pixel and all icons that you hardly use should be removed.”
Holy shit yes, this! What’s making these icons stand out isn’t that they’re so much bigger than everything else, no, they aren’t that really that big. And it isn’t that the colors are more saturated than what their old counterparts are using, no, their colors are actually a little bit less saturated. What is making them stand out is that their design is clean and they’re uncluttered, making them familiar and instantly recognizable to programmers, but above all of that what really sets them apart is that you can actually see which color shade they are using! (… Just try that with the good old Run icon. Is it dark green, marble green, green topaz, polished green plastic, emerald..? I still like that icon, don’t get me wrong, I actually think that one’s one of the few which have a chance to survive into the future.) So, I think you’re on the right path and future will prove it right. Maybe as soon as Eclipse gets freely adjustable zoom levels anywhere in the 75%-400% level range. Trying to make the new versions of the icons at 64x64 pixels have as much fine detail as in the 16x16 version just isn’t going to scale. -- Have a nice day, Timo Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Doug Schaefer Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 23:05 To: Cross project issues Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Wayne Beaton <[email protected]> Organization: The Eclipse Foundation Reply-To: Cross project issues <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 at 4:44 PM To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau Is maybe the first step to make it look and act like everything that's already on the tool bar? The New Connection is what it would look like and -1 to that. The issue is that you’re showing 16 pixel high images and text in a combo boxes. You need at least two pixels of margin to make that look good plus the border giving you 22 pixels high, right now there’s 5 pixels of margin height giving us more like 28 pixels. Given that buttons are 32 pixels square, it’s a little unbalanced as it is. But you can’t really have the buttons smaller than the combos. That would look dumb. Frankly, I like the idea of pushing the metaphors that we use and challenging look and feel assumptions. I actually quite like the look of the Launch Bar. It does, however, stand out like a sore thumb. You should have heard what the UX designers we were working with though of the current Eclipse look and feel (a bunch of crazy Swedes from Malmo :) ). They insisted that all images should be no smaller than 32 pixel and all icons that you hardly use should be removed. We’ve already toned down the original design. If you get a chance, take a look at the first BlackBerry Momentics IDE that the launch bar appeared in. When our product manager first showed it at a dev conference, one of the audience members came up after and gave him a hug thanking him for all the great work we’ve done to make it easier to use. You know you’re doing something right when that happens. The buttons need to be reactive. Yup, I there’s a bug open on that already. Wayne On 09/12/15 04:32 PM, Doug Schaefer wrote: It would be good to show it off and maybe it¹ll spark in someone a way to make it not look like crap. -- Wayne Beaton @waynebeaton The Eclipse Foundation --------------------------------------------------------------------- This transmission (including any attachments) may contain confidential information, privileged material (including material protected by the solicitor-client or other applicable privileges), or constitute non-public information. Any use of this information by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately reply to the sender and delete this information from your system. Use, dissemination, distribution, or reproduction of this transmission by unintended recipients is not authorized and may be unlawful.
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