Maybe we need to consider removing BIRT 4.7.0 since it depends on versions
of requirements that are not in the Photon simrel.

* DTP 1.13 version is 2 years old (Neon).
* WTP 3.9 version is 1 year old (Oxygen).
* EMF 2.13 is 1 year old (Oxygen).

The fact that BIRT hasn't even done a milestone build since June 2017 [0]
means it might not even compile or run against these newer versions of its
dependencies. It might be fine, but it might not. No one has done the
diligence.

[0] http://download.eclipse.org/birt/downloads/build_list.php

I did find there's a 4.8.0 master branch build but those are *not running
tests*, and a new CI build hasn't been run since March 13, 2018
(Photon.0.M6 +2 day) [1]. And it's still using WTP 3.9.0 (not 3.9.5 or
3.10.0.M6) and DTP 1.13 (not 1.14).

[1] https://ci.eclipse.org/birt/job/birt-master/60/

But if a project hasn't contributed new bits to the current simrel for M4,
M5, M6, despite having new CI builds... should it be removed like TM/RSE
was removed? The latest in simrel is 4.7.0.v201706, from the birt
oxygen-interim site [2].

[2] http://download.eclipse.org/birt/update-site/oxygen-interim/

@Wayne, what's the official policy here?

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 4:08 PM, Roland Grunberg <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 2018-04-18 at 16:42 -0400, Roland Grunberg wrote:
> > From the discussion in the bug [2], GMF, Papyrus, and Sirius are likely
> > to adopt the new version. Does BIRT, Graphiti, and TM4E intend to do so
> > as well ? The hope was to eliminate 1.6 and 1.7 entirely but given how
> > close this comes to M7, we might have to keep them in if adoption is
> > not possible for all projects.
>
> So after looking into the 2 remaining projects that haven't switched
> yet to Batik 1.9.1, It doesn't seem like they would be harmed by the
> removal of 1.6/1.7 from the Photon Orbit (active) build.
>
> - TM4E only has an optional dependency to Batik 1.7 or higher. The
> usage of Batik is limited to org.apache.batik.css.parser.Parser and
> between 1.7 and 1.9.1, this class did not change API or make any major
> modifications to that class.
>
> - BIRT is still using the R20170307180635 (Neon.3) Orbit build and is
> unlikely to switch for Photon.
>
> As a result I'll be removing Batik 1.6 & 1.7 from the Orbit active
> build. If anyone is opposed to such a move, or if issues arise, we can
> easily undo the change.
>
> Cheers,
> --
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