+Yulin

-Thanks
Ritesh

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ritesh 
Motlani
Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 8:52 AM
To: Cross project issues <[email protected]>; Nick Boldt 
<[email protected]>
Cc: Mihail Mihaylov <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] [EXTERNAL] - Re: Batik 1.9.1 bundles 
available (for BIRT, Graphiti, TM4E)

Hi Nick,

I just learned about this today only.
We are taking look at this.

-Thanks
Ritesh

From: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
 [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wayne Beaton
Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 8:47 AM
To: Nick Boldt <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: Cross project issues 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] - Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Batik 1.9.1 bundles 
available (for BIRT, Graphiti, TM4E)

@Wayne, what's the official policy here?

It's the Planning Council's call.

Is anybody from Eclipse BIRT paying attention to this thread?

/bcc BIRT PMC, PL, and PC representative.

Wayne

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 6:39 PM, Nick Boldt 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Maybe we need to consider removing BIRT 4.7.0 since it depends on versions of 
requirements that are not in the Photon simrel.

* DTP 1.13 version is 2 years old (Neon).
* WTP 3.9 version is 1 year old (Oxygen).
* EMF 2.13 is 1 year old (Oxygen).

The fact that BIRT hasn't even done a milestone build since June 2017 [0] means 
it might not even compile or run against these newer versions of its 
dependencies. It might be fine, but it might not. No one has done the diligence.

[0] 
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I did find there's a 4.8.0 master branch build but those are not running tests, 
and a new CI build hasn't been run since March 13, 2018 (Photon.0.M6 +2 day) 
[1]. And it's still using WTP 3.9.0 (not 3.9.5 or 3.10.0.M6) and DTP 1.13 (not 
1.14).

[1] 
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But if a project hasn't contributed new bits to the current simrel for M4, M5, 
M6, despite having new CI builds... should it be removed like TM/RSE was 
removed? The latest in simrel is 4.7.0.v201706, from the birt oxygen-interim 
site [2].

[2] 
http://download.eclipse.org/birt/update-site/oxygen-interim/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__download.eclipse.org_birt_update-2Dsite_oxygen-2Dinterim_&d=DwMFaQ&c=ZgVRmm3mf2P1-XDAyDsu4A&r=MFWqz7LjbQzRr3qctZTAXfewTrzTavF8Fb9JOyq85xQ&m=WQ8oaEmDNlhGkI-VMbnH-HDz0-AmT1l7HCdIyryegKQ&s=nsCVBOoQgBQkiRAQkwKZ9opegXhNwzouFp6H4Yc1aho&e=>

@Wayne, what's the official policy here?

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 4:08 PM, Roland Grunberg 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On Wed, 2018-04-18 at 16:42 -0400, Roland Grunberg wrote:
> From the discussion in the bug [2], GMF, Papyrus, and Sirius are likely
> to adopt the new version. Does BIRT, Graphiti, and TM4E intend to do so
> as well ? The hope was to eliminate 1.6 and 1.7 entirely but given how
> close this comes to M7, we might have to keep them in if adoption is
> not possible for all projects.

So after looking into the 2 remaining projects that haven't switched
yet to Batik 1.9.1, It doesn't seem like they would be harmed by the
removal of 1.6/1.7 from the Photon Orbit (active) build.

- TM4E only has an optional dependency to Batik 1.7 or higher. The
usage of Batik is limited to 
org.apache.batik.css.parser.Pa<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__org.apache.batik.css.parser.Pa&d=DwMFaQ&c=ZgVRmm3mf2P1-XDAyDsu4A&r=MFWqz7LjbQzRr3qctZTAXfewTrzTavF8Fb9JOyq85xQ&m=WQ8oaEmDNlhGkI-VMbnH-HDz0-AmT1l7HCdIyryegKQ&s=AmzABZpUI4Lu27RxU5o_C7oh3qUtob0B-YeUbyA_zOc&e=>rser
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between 1.7 and 1.9.1, this class did not change API or make any major
modifications to that class.

- BIRT is still using the R20170307180635 (Neon.3) Orbit build and is
unlikely to switch for Photon.

As a result I'll be removing Batik 1.6 & 1.7 from the Orbit active
build. If anyone is opposed to such a move, or if issues arise, we can
easily undo the change.

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