BTW, Ritesh and I just met and came up with a plan of action to promptly 
address BIRT’s old versions dependencies issue discussed below by compiling and 
testing against newer version of these dependencies. Ritesh can provide more 
details

Thanks,
Mihail
Director Product Management – Analytics


From: Ritesh Motlani
Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 8:52 AM
To: Cross project issues <[email protected]>; Nick Boldt 
<[email protected]>
Cc: Mihail Mihaylov <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] - Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Batik 1.9.1 bundles 
available (for BIRT, Graphiti, TM4E)

Hi Nick,

I just learned about this today only.
We are taking look at this.

-Thanks
Ritesh

From: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
 [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wayne Beaton
Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 8:47 AM
To: Nick Boldt <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: Cross project issues 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] - Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Batik 1.9.1 bundles 
available (for BIRT, Graphiti, TM4E)

@Wayne, what's the official policy here?

It's the Planning Council's call.

Is anybody from Eclipse BIRT paying attention to this thread?

/bcc BIRT PMC, PL, and PC representative.

Wayne

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 6:39 PM, Nick Boldt 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Maybe we need to consider removing BIRT 4.7.0 since it depends on versions of 
requirements that are not in the Photon simrel.

* DTP 1.13 version is 2 years old (Neon).
* WTP 3.9 version is 1 year old (Oxygen).
* EMF 2.13 is 1 year old (Oxygen).

The fact that BIRT hasn't even done a milestone build since June 2017 [0] means 
it might not even compile or run against these newer versions of its 
dependencies. It might be fine, but it might not. No one has done the diligence.

[0] 
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I did find there's a 4.8.0 master branch build but those are not running tests, 
and a new CI build hasn't been run since March 13, 2018 (Photon.0.M6 +2 day) 
[1]. And it's still using WTP 3.9.0 (not 3.9.5 or 3.10.0.M6) and DTP 1.13 (not 
1.14).

[1] 
https://ci.eclipse.org/birt/job/birt-master/60/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ci.eclipse.org_birt_job_birt-2Dmaster_60_&d=DwMFaQ&c=ZgVRmm3mf2P1-XDAyDsu4A&r=MFWqz7LjbQzRr3qctZTAXfewTrzTavF8Fb9JOyq85xQ&m=WQ8oaEmDNlhGkI-VMbnH-HDz0-AmT1l7HCdIyryegKQ&s=jKibJBj0u9r3DgYIcgD_XOJT4zIGSMJeoelFZ__oGFM&e=>

But if a project hasn't contributed new bits to the current simrel for M4, M5, 
M6, despite having new CI builds... should it be removed like TM/RSE was 
removed? The latest in simrel is 4.7.0.v201706, from the birt oxygen-interim 
site [2].

[2] 
http://download.eclipse.org/birt/update-site/oxygen-interim/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__download.eclipse.org_birt_update-2Dsite_oxygen-2Dinterim_&d=DwMFaQ&c=ZgVRmm3mf2P1-XDAyDsu4A&r=MFWqz7LjbQzRr3qctZTAXfewTrzTavF8Fb9JOyq85xQ&m=WQ8oaEmDNlhGkI-VMbnH-HDz0-AmT1l7HCdIyryegKQ&s=nsCVBOoQgBQkiRAQkwKZ9opegXhNwzouFp6H4Yc1aho&e=>

@Wayne, what's the official policy here?

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 4:08 PM, Roland Grunberg 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On Wed, 2018-04-18 at 16:42 -0400, Roland Grunberg wrote:
> From the discussion in the bug [2], GMF, Papyrus, and Sirius are likely
> to adopt the new version. Does BIRT, Graphiti, and TM4E intend to do so
> as well ? The hope was to eliminate 1.6 and 1.7 entirely but given how
> close this comes to M7, we might have to keep them in if adoption is
> not possible for all projects.

So after looking into the 2 remaining projects that haven't switched
yet to Batik 1.9.1, It doesn't seem like they would be harmed by the
removal of 1.6/1.7 from the Photon Orbit (active) build.

- TM4E only has an optional dependency to Batik 1.7 or higher. The
usage of Batik is limited to 
org.apache.batik.css.parser.Pa<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__org.apache.batik.css.parser.Pa&d=DwMFaQ&c=ZgVRmm3mf2P1-XDAyDsu4A&r=MFWqz7LjbQzRr3qctZTAXfewTrzTavF8Fb9JOyq85xQ&m=WQ8oaEmDNlhGkI-VMbnH-HDz0-AmT1l7HCdIyryegKQ&s=AmzABZpUI4Lu27RxU5o_C7oh3qUtob0B-YeUbyA_zOc&e=>rser
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between 1.7 and 1.9.1, this class did not change API or make any major
modifications to that class.

- BIRT is still using the R20170307180635 (Neon.3) Orbit build and is
unlikely to switch for Photon.

As a result I'll be removing Batik 1.6 & 1.7 from the Orbit active
build. If anyone is opposed to such a move, or if issues arise, we can
easily undo the change.

Cheers,
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