On 19/10/05, Brendan Lally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 10/19/05, Anton Oussik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 19/10/05, Brendan Lally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I'm inclined to say that at least there should be a /big/ hit points
> > > penalty as well (maybe 50% - though with a small ac bonus too ?)
> >
> > Create a naked wraith, try using it to fight something, and say that again.
>
> A lvl 100 wraith with high level karate is still reasonably powerful.

Yes, but I want it to be playable like this, so someone might want to
change to this mode and stay in it... for ever?

A problem I see with staying in non-corporial form for ever is food.
You would still use up food but have no way to replenish it. When
feeding off others with wraith_touch food should go up as well as hp.
Would this need a new attack type food_steal?

Maybe wraith in this mode should also see invisible?

> > > Would you change the face as well, to give some clue they are in this 
> > > mode?
> >
> > Being invisible will change the face automatically. It will be like
> > wearing god finger.
>
> on a related but tangential point, would it be possible to make
> invisible characters appear on their controller's screen? I am
> thinking with the face having a medium alpha value, so that it appears
> to be partially seethrough. I often find it hard when controlling an
> invisible character to know where they are.

I thought of that before, and then you will not be able to tell if
someone cast reveal invisible on you. Maybe set to 75% transparrency
for own invisible character?

> > > > Also you should not be able to go into void squares to get to other
> > > > "floors" or mechanic sections of the map. You should be able to apply
> > > > exits though, to get around between maps.
> > >
> > > not all boulder layouts are seperated by squares with no tiles on.
> >
> > True, but I do not see this as a huge problem if sometimes you can
> > wander into a mechanism. x-ray vision allows you to see many of them,
> > and that is not much of a problem.
>
> yes, but there are maps designed so that x-ray vision won't let you
> see them, where as your walking through walls would (scorn gatehouse
> is an example of this).

I still do not see this as a huge cheat to be able to see some
mechanisms. I imagine ghosts in ancient castles could too!

> > Yes, I dislike both examples I gave myself. It seems something new
> > needs to be introduced into the game, and placed around towns to allow
> > wraiths get new bodies. Something not already found anywhere.
>
> taxidermists?

I imagine this should be a relatively big thing to shed one's body, so
taking a physical form should require a ritual of some sort to be
performed. Maybe a map with a large pentagram, with lots of people
reading some prayers, and if wraith steps over the body and stays
there for half an hour they get re-incarnated?

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