You don't really. The larger brakes give you better feel and finer control of what's happening, and also theoretically help prevent fade when you are using them really hard. If you never experience fade, and are happy with the feedback your brakes provide, great, then they are fine for you. In reality, the stock brakes are fine for me, too, I just need to replace the pads and shoes. But, I like bigger and better, and since I'm putting money into a larger more powerful engine (B16A) that'll theoretically make me go faster, while adding weight to the car, I figure that another $500-600 invested in the brake system is worth it to control that speed and weight. A lot of people put a ton of money into the engine of their cars, without worryign about stopping, and I'm just not one of those people. For me the brakes are first, and I DO use my brakes hard, and can get them to fade, and I would liek the improved feel that the better brakes theoretically provide to help me modulate th! em.
And, of course, they'll look cool behind my gunmetal grey 16s, and chicks dig that. Just don't tell my wife. Original Message: ----------------- From: Joey R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 17:16:48 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re: CRX: Re: RE: Brake shoes I just have one thing to say. Don't your tires determine how well youre car stops. I mean if i can lock up my tires then thats as good as my brakes need to be right? Im not talking about track events or brake fade because most of us wont encounter that on the road. All im saying is that if the caliper and brakes are strong enough to lock the tires how can i have brakes any better than that???? J.R. >From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Re: CRX: Re: RE: Brake shoes >Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 09:23:07 -0400 > >Whether you have a different caliper or not, a larger rotor will always >offer more braking than a smaller one, just because the caliper is now >grabbing at a greater distance from teh hub, and having a greater >mechanical advantage. Think of it as a big lever or ratchet, the longer the >arm you are using, the greater torque, and the greater effect you have on >the thing you are trying to turn/stop. Also, a larger rotor would have more >surface area, and in the end would cool itself better, thus making the >whole system more efficient. >Of course, larger calipers are nice, but you don't have to have them to >increase the braking power. > >Original Message: >----------------- >From: Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 00:24:15 -0700 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: CRX: Re: RE: Brake shoes > > >If you are using the same calipers with the adapter bracket, how does that >improve the braking because all your getting is a larger rotor? Heat >disappation? Wouldn't you have to use a larger brake pads than the stock >ones in order to take advantage of the larger rotors ? And if so, I didn't >know one could put larger pads onto the stock calipers. I thought one would >have to have larger calipers in order to have the bigger brake kit >applications. > >I was lurking through the fastbrakes website and I noticed that they offer >larger calipers on their front brake setup, but not on the rears. Weird. >Any clarification would be much appreciated. Thanks gang. > >Ken >90si > >At 07:35 PM 31/05/2002 -0400, you wrote: > >Fast brake kit. You use the same caliper. They give you a bracket that >will > >fit the 11in. > > > >Joe > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Mark Humphreys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:18 AM > >Subject: Re: CRX: Re: RE: Brake shoes > > > > > > > Joe, What did you do to get the 11" rotors on the rear? Are you >running a > > > proportioning valve? > > > -M > > > > > > > > > >From: Joseph Porto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Reply-To: Joseph Porto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >To: George Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Subject: CRX: Re: RE: Brake shoes > > > >Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 21:14:10 -0400 > > > > > > > >George > > > > > > > >I have an 11 inch rotor on the front and rear.. > > > >They are kinda overkill....They can lock the wheels up very >easily...So > >you > > > >gotta be careful on how much pressure you apply... You cant just slam >on > > > >the > > > >breaks..they will definitely lock all 4....hey at least you will look > >cool > > > >spinning out of control. :) > > > > > > > >Joe > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "George Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 7:31 PM > > > >Subject: CRX: RE: Brake shoes > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm, I would opt for stock Honda shoes on the rears, since the >rears > > > >see > > > > > about 25% or less stopping power. Also, realize that the 2000 >Civic > >Si > > > > > weighs in at over 2600lbs., 600lbs. MORE than your Si (hefty, >isn't > > > >it?). > > > >I > > > > > would imagine that the 11.5" rotors *might* be overkill, but >that's > >just > > > >my > > > > > humble opinion. Then there's that ugly nose on the 2000 Si, cheap > >"Si" > > > > > badge, stupid "VTEC" decal on the side (because the grocery-getter > >body > > > > > doesn't really look like it's a sports car). Then there's the >slick > > > > > timeless design of our CRX's (yeah...). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > '89 DX-Hybrid-D16Z6, 120k miles > > > > > "Seats, Suspension, Engine, next=Nos?" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > > > > > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 6:58 PM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: CRX: Brake shoes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, it's time to do the brakes on my 88Si. I've decided to go >with > > > >that > > > > > kit that gives you 11.5" rotors in the front with 2000 Civic Si > > > >calipers. > > > > > However, for the rear, I haven't decided. I was just going to get >the > > > >Honda > > > > > shoes, but the dealer has to order them, so if I have to wait, I >may > >as > > > >well > > > > > make sure those are the best option. Any other ideas? My car is >street > > > > > driven, not raced, but it is driven hard, and the brakes are >probably > > > >used > > > > > the hardest of everything on my car... > > > > > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > > > > > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >mail2web - Check your email from the web at >http://mail2web.com/ . > Yes...there are stupid questions......stupid people ask them.... =) Straights are for fast cars... curves are for fast drivers _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
