You can do that with pretty much ANY stock brakes (threshold brake), depending on how sticky your tires are. Stock brake pads won't let you threshold brake slicks very well (it's semi difficult to lock up brand new sticky slicks if you don't have good pads).
The point to larger brakes IS what he stated -- fade resistance for repeated high speed stops. Much of the same can be accomplished with better pads, though. I've driven CRX's with big brakes before, and quite honestly, aside from having a little better pedal feel than stock (mainly because of larger master cylinders also being installed along with the larger brakes), the cars don't stop any better than my stock-braked CRX with good pads. I'm sure that story would be different if I was on a track, but for the streets, there's little-to-no difference. Ricky On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Mark Humphreys wrote: > Uuummm, no, the point to having bigger brakes is to make it easier to brake > hard without locking up the brakes. When you're on the threshold of locking > 'em up, thats when you stop the best. > -M > > > >From: "Joey R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: "Joey R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: Re: CRX: Re: RE: Brake shoes > >Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 17:16:48 -0400 > > > >I just have one thing to say. Don't your tires determine how well youre car > >stops. I mean if i can lock up my tires then thats as good as my brakes > >need to be right? Im not talking about track events or brake fade because > >most of us wont encounter that on the road. All im saying is that if the > >caliper and brakes are strong enough to lock the tires how can i have > >brakes any better than that???? > > > >J.R. > > > > > >>From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Reply-To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Subject: RE: Re: CRX: Re: RE: Brake shoes > >>Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 09:23:07 -0400 > >> > >>Whether you have a different caliper or not, a larger rotor will always > >>offer more braking than a smaller one, just because the caliper is now > >>grabbing at a greater distance from teh hub, and having a greater > >>mechanical advantage. Think of it as a big lever or ratchet, the longer > >>the arm you are using, the greater torque, and the greater effect you have > >>on the thing you are trying to turn/stop. Also, a larger rotor would have > >>more surface area, and in the end would cool itself better, thus making > >>the whole system more efficient. > >>Of course, larger calipers are nice, but you don't have to have them to > >>increase the braking power. > >> > >>Original Message: > >>----------------- > >>From: Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 00:24:15 -0700 > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Subject: Re: CRX: Re: RE: Brake shoes > >> > >> > >>If you are using the same calipers with the adapter bracket, how does > >>that > >>improve the braking because all your getting is a larger rotor? Heat > >>disappation? Wouldn't you have to use a larger brake pads than the stock > >>ones in order to take advantage of the larger rotors ? And if so, I didn't > >>know one could put larger pads onto the stock calipers. I thought one > >>would > >>have to have larger calipers in order to have the bigger brake kit > >>applications. > >> > >>I was lurking through the fastbrakes website and I noticed that they offer > >>larger calipers on their front brake setup, but not on the rears. Weird. > >>Any clarification would be much appreciated. Thanks gang. > >> > >>Ken > >>90si > >> > >>At 07:35 PM 31/05/2002 -0400, you wrote: > >> >Fast brake kit. You use the same caliper. They give you a bracket that > >>will > >> >fit the 11in. > >> > > >> >Joe > >> > > >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> >From: "Mark Humphreys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > >> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:18 AM > >> >Subject: Re: CRX: Re: RE: Brake shoes > >> > > >> > > >> > > Joe, What did you do to get the 11" rotors on the rear? Are you > >>running a > >> > > proportioning valve? > >> > > -M > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >From: Joseph Porto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > >Reply-To: Joseph Porto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > >To: George Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], > >> > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > >Subject: CRX: Re: RE: Brake shoes > >> > > >Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 21:14:10 -0400 > >> > > > > >> > > >George > >> > > > > >> > > >I have an 11 inch rotor on the front and rear.. > >> > > >They are kinda overkill....They can lock the wheels up very > >>easily...So > >> >you > >> > > >gotta be careful on how much pressure you apply... You cant just > >>slam on > >> > > >the > >> > > >breaks..they will definitely lock all 4....hey at least you will > >>look > >> >cool > >> > > >spinning out of control. :) > >> > > > > >> > > >Joe > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >----- Original Message ----- > >> > > >From: "George Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > >Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 7:31 PM > >> > > >Subject: CRX: RE: Brake shoes > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Hmmm, I would opt for stock Honda shoes on the rears, since the > >>rears > >> > > >see > >> > > > > about 25% or less stopping power. Also, realize that the 2000 > >>Civic > >> >Si > >> > > > > weighs in at over 2600lbs., 600lbs. MORE than your Si (hefty, > >>isn't > >> > > >it?). > >> > > >I > >> > > > > would imagine that the 11.5" rotors *might* be overkill, but > >>that's > >> >just > >> > > >my > >> > > > > humble opinion. Then there's that ugly nose on the 2000 Si, > >>cheap > >> >"Si" > >> > > > > badge, stupid "VTEC" decal on the side (because the > >>grocery-getter > >> >body > >> > > > > doesn't really look like it's a sports car). Then there's the > >>slick > >> > > > > timeless design of our CRX's (yeah...). > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > George > >> > > > > '89 DX-Hybrid-D16Z6, 120k miles > >> > > > > "Seats, Suspension, Engine, next=Nos?" > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > >> > > > > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 6:58 PM > >> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > > Subject: CRX: Brake shoes > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Well, it's time to do the brakes on my 88Si. I've decided to go > >>with > >> > > >that > >> > > > > kit that gives you 11.5" rotors in the front with 2000 Civic Si > >> > > >calipers. > >> > > > > However, for the rear, I haven't decided. I was just going to get > >>the > >> > > >Honda > >> > > > > shoes, but the dealer has to order them, so if I have to wait, I > >>may > >> >as > >> > > >well > >> > > > > make sure those are the best option. Any other ideas? My car is > >>street > >> > > > > driven, not raced, but it is driven hard, and the brakes are > >>probably > >> > > >used > >> > > > > the hardest of everything on my car... > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>-------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > > > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > >> > > > > http://mail2web.com/ . > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > >> > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > >> > > > >> > >>-------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>mail2web - Check your email from the web at > >>http://mail2web.com/ . > >> > > > > > > > > > >Yes...there are stupid questions......stupid people ask them.... =) > >Straights are for fast cars... curves are for fast drivers > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > >
