>At a minimum, it's "is there any evidence--at all--other than guessing /
>suspicions / assumptions / presumptions / paranoia?" It need not be a
>religious or ideological discussion; it need not be based on "I believe it's
>happening" or "I don't believe it's happening"--just, is there any evidence

The evidence as I understand is this:

1. Skype has said in the german press that they can listen to communications
2. Russian intelligence has said in the Russian press that Skype
allows them to listen to communications
3. The Skype privacy policy explicitly states that they will allow LE
access to all communication when feasable
4. Skype appears to be able to read URLs sent which sparked this email thread

I know of no communication company that refused to cooperate with an
intelligence agency and Skype explicitly says they provide access to
governments in their privacy policy, they have the capability to add a
wiretap into skype since they control the software so it is certainly
feasible. Why would skype lie in their privacy policy and say they
would provide access and then not provide access?

"Skype, Skype's local partner, or the operator or company facilitating
your communication may provide personal data, communications content
and/or traffic data to an appropriate judicial, law enforcement or
government authority lawfully requesting such information. Skype will
provide reasonable assistance and information to fulfill this request
and you hereby consent to such disclosure."
http://www.skype.com/en/legal/privacy/

Other than skype publicly stating the method that they use, I'm not
sure what would constitute better proof.

On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Eric S Johnson
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>Does anyone on this list honestly doubt that intelligence agencies are
>>intercepting and reading skype
>> Is the debate that (1). we don't know the exact method, or (2). can't
>> prove it 100% or (3). that someone actual believes they aren't doing
>> this?
>
> At a minimum, it's "is there any evidence--at all--other than guessing /
> suspicions / assumptions / presumptions / paranoia?" It need not be a
> religious or ideological discussion; it need not be based on "I believe it's
> happening" or "I don't believe it's happening"--just, is there any evidence?
>
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