You go ahead and believe 100% that VAC is automated. There has been cases where user has been manually VAC banned (Drunken_F00l for example). It's just easier to say it's automated for the masses and easier to maintain if it just scans people by cheat signatures without someone going through all reports. However it looks like VAC is deprecated since cheats go private and it can't detect them anymore, unless someone sends the new ones to Valve. There's many cheaters on our community lists who were blatant cheaters but still after couple of years no bans on them. There are those who have been banned by VAC too so thats for that.

But now community servers are less secure than Valve servers, that was and still is my concern.

-ics

11.12.2012 15:10, Absurd Minds kirjoitti:

Vac doesn't work that way. It's automated based on detection of a cheat, and delayed to catch as many cheaters as possible. I doubt it's even possible to manually add a player to vac, but in a week or two you might see him vac banned anyway.

On Dec 11, 2012 7:20 AM, "ics" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Thats not the issue. Problem is that the ban applies ONLY to
    official valve servers, not to any community servers. This leaves
    them free playground to go on. Vac bans apply to all servers and
    if he is chating, why valve handles them with silk gloves? To not
    alienate the players from this game? This shows pretty clear sign
    of community servers being treated poorly vs official ones and
    cheating not being such a bad offence after all.

    -ics

    ----- Alkuperäinen viesti -----
    > Dang, people will find a way to complain about anything. "A cheater
    > got banned! I am outraged!"
    >
    > On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 4:38 AM, AnAkIn <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
    > > This is nothing new, people have already been manually banned
    before.
    > >
    > > Le 11 déc. 2012 10:33, "Asher Baker" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit :
    > >
    > > > And now we see the reason for these new "Official Violations" -
    > > > banning people without the technical proof required by VAC.
    > > > This can go nowhere but badly.
    > > >
    > > > On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 8:01 AM, Nomaan Ahmad
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    > > > wrote:
    > > > >
    http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3025067
    > > > >
    > > > > This dude managed to get VAC banned.
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > On 11 December 2012 07:26, AnAkIn <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > He's not vac banned, check his profile.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Le 11 déc. 2012 01:13, "Bruno Garcia"
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    > > > > > a écrit :
    > > > > >
    > > > > > > @Vitaliy Genkin:
    > > > > > > Is this the appropriate way of reporting cheaters?
    > > > > > > Does the profile report violation actually work? I've
    never
    > > > > > > seen VAC Bans
    > > > > > > applied when reporting cheaters through a profile report.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > @Anakin: He's Vac banned on CS:GO , he can't play on
    official
    > > > > > > servers (vac enabled servers), that's what he ment.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 8:22 PM, AnAkIn
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    > > > > > > wrote:
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > If he's cheating, why aren't you vac banning him then?
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > Le 10 déc. 2012 23:00, "Vitaliy Genkin"
    > > > > > > > <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit :
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > Thank you for bringing this up to our attention and
    > > > > > > > > providing the details. We did more investigation
    on our
    > > > > > > > > side and agreed with the cheating
    > > > > > > > > verdict. We assigned the appropriate CS:GO official
    > > > > > > > > violations and they will
    > > > > > > > > not be able to play on official game servers.
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
    > > > > > > > > From: [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    > > > > > > > >
    [mailto:[email protected]] On
    > > > > > > > > Behalf Of a2115781
    > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 11:21 AM
    > > > > > > > > To: [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    > > > > > > > > Subject: [Csgo_servers] Reporting cheaters
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > Does reporting cheaters on their profile actually do
    > > > > > > > > anything? I was wondering if submitting proof of
    cheaters
    > > > > > > > > would be enough to get them admin
    > > > > > > > > assigned cooldowns so they could no longer play on
    > > > > > > > > matchmaking servers.
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > This guy (http://steamcommunity.com/id/Kureneko/ ID:
    > > > > > > > > 0:1:56990980) was
    > > > > > > > > speed hacking and aimbotting in a competitive
    matchmaking
    > > > > > > > > game, and we
    > > > > > > > > couldn't do anything except wait for the game to end.
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > He has screenshots on his own profile of him
    cheating in
    > > > > > > > > css:
    > > > > > > > >
    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=108133681
    > > > > > > > >
    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=110580311
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > Demo of him cheating in csgo if the screenshots he
    took
    > > > > > > > > himself aren't
    > > > > > > > > enough proof:
    http://www.mediafire.com/?lwtcbp6j2228lua
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > His friend
    http://steamcommunity.com/id/13874893274/ was
    > > > > > > > > in the game with him and stopping him from getting
    kicked.
    > > > > > > > > I suspect this
    > > > > > > > >
    http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197975901831 is
    > > > > > > > > the cheaters alt account as they have the same
    name and
    > > > > > > > > are both friends with the same person.
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > --
    > > > > > > > > View this message in context:
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    http://csgo-servers.1073505.n5.nabble.com/Reporting-cheaters-tp2587.html

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