I usually side with Valve on backwards-incompatible updates (although most
can be avoided) because you don't need even more things stopping
programmers from helping the game evolve, the job's stressful enough.
Moreover more changes aren't that big of a deal for the SM devs now (I
think they've got scripts to detect interface changes, etc.)

However as mentioned earlier, this update isn't "minor" at all, in which
completely undocumented engine changes happen, that they most definitely
could have predicted would break some plugins. No warning.



Kind regards,
Saul Rennison


On 25 December 2012 01:09, Eric Winkelmann <[email protected]>wrote:

> CS:GO is hardly functional on its own.
>
> Losing SourceMod means losing detailed server stats, tiered Admin access
> for server management, and a fully functional Map Vote / Random Map /
> Rockthevote system. Things that have been a staple on CS servers for almost
> a decade now.
>
> Third party modding is the reason Counter-Strike is still a "thing" these
> days. Accept it.
>
> And AbsurdMinds, stop being so ridiculous in riding Valve sausage. We all
> appreciate Valve...but they could at least give warning when they are going
> to release patches that so completely destroy their dedicated community.
>
> The reason
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Techgunner <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  You have to remove your addon folder if you are running an admin
>> plugin. Sourcemod and Mani Admin will not work with new update, and Mani is
>> closed now so they will not be making a new gametype.txt file for it.
>>
>> {{A-BS}}Techgunner
>> Clan Leader/Founder
>> American BloodSport Gaming Communitywww.americanbloodsport.com
>>
>> On 12/24/2012 4:52 PM, Eric Winkelmann wrote:
>>
>> My community server is also completely broken, it won't even start up
>> now.
>>
>>  Thank you Valve. Keep catering to the pointless matchmaking crowd...and
>> continue breaking the gameplay of the players who have been with you since
>> 1999 / 2000.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Jon Ellis <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  Update sems to have screwed servers up...since auto apply, server is
>>> not online and control panel not responding
>>>
>>>     *From:* Ido Magal <[email protected]>
>>> *To:* "'[email protected]'" <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 24, 2012 5:52:16 PM
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Csgo_servers] CSGO 1.21.5.2
>>>
>>>   The update is now live. thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> [ MISC ]
>>>
>>> * Added the ability to commend and report players from the player
>>> details view that can be accessed in the scoreboard.
>>> * Number of competitive wins, and unique commendations are now shown in
>>> the main menu along with skill group.
>>> * Competitive scoreboard will show number of competitive wins needed to
>>> display your skill group if you have not displayed it yet.
>>> * Fixed movement on ladders ignoring the walk button. Now climbing
>>> ladders while holding walk is slow and silent, which fixes previous exploit
>>> of being able to climb ladders at fullspeed without making sound.
>>> * Fixed failure to fire after weapon switching away from a reload and
>>> back (fake-reloading).
>>> * Whitelisted tv_password convar to set GOTV password.
>>> * Reduced fps in main menu when not connected to a server from 300 fps
>>> to 120 fps to help with laptops and desktop video cards doing excessive
>>> work. Exposed fps_max_menu convar to control fps in main menu.
>>> * Added one more minute of grace period for players to reconnect to
>>> their competitive match before a cooldown for failing to reconnect is
>>> assigned. Cooldown for failing to reconnect is now assigned after player
>>> has remained disconnected for at least 4 minutes, not counting the round of
>>> disconnection and not counting the round in which 4 minutes grace period
>>> elapses.
>>> * Fixed Hammer crash on exit.
>>> * Added some holiday cheer.
>>>
>>>
>>>  *From:* Ido Magal
>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 24, 2012 12:57 PM
>>> *To:* '[email protected]'
>>> *Subject:* CSGO 1.21.5.2
>>>
>>> We hope to have a minor update within a few hours. Thanks.
>>>
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