Why do you think monetizing players is an ingorant thing to do?

I don't monetize my players. I build community. Unified label for CS, BF,
DayZ and whatever-you-want servers. And it's freaky annoying  to see game's
producer mess up things you've built for at least 2 years. They don't even
care anymore to send us us a message about upcoming patch or changelog.


2014-07-03 23:31 GMT+02:00 ics <[email protected]>:

> Generally it just depends from the common noise made. A lot of people
> boycotted l4d2, they responded quite swiftly. If a clanplayer says
> something and has 2000 followers, they will react quite fast. If non
> existant server running dude says something here, they will not pay
> attention unless you mail directly a flaw to them that is critical or they
> seem appropriate to comment something said here.
>
> Don't expect that they obey you an answer, because they don't. It's not
> like you are paying for this service. However, it would be nice once a
> while to know they aknowledge the work we do for them, for free instead of
> getting the "talk to the hand" attitude.
>
> Anycase, raging doesn't help anyone, politeness will result to better
> results.
>
> -ics
>
> Ejziponken - kirjoitti:
>
>> I don't think it matters at all how you say something here. The respond
>> is always the same from Valve - nonexistent.
>>
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>>
>> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 14:04:36 -0700
>> From: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] 5 mb update
>>
>> I'm not exactly sure why you think I've never seen "big boy words", I'm
>> pointing out that a completely block-paragraphed, run-on filled, diatribe
>> of swear words is pretty easy to ignore; especially when you can get the
>> same exact message 20 times over by visiting the steam forums.
>>
>> I agree that things are not good, but hurling insults really isn't
>> constructive at all - when has it ever been?
>>
>> Also the note about "Valve is literally stealing players from community
>> servers". Lower player count sucks but this costs you how much? Are you
>> making money off your users or do you just like to see your server always
>> full? Having an empty server and having a full server means no real
>> difference in the bill you get at the end of the month. If you /are/
>> somehow monetizing your players (which I don't think anyone here is
>> ignorant enough to do) - please fall off a bridge.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Michael Loveless <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>     Welcome to the real world Gordon, where big boys use big boys
>>     words to describe their thoughts and don't care what other boys or
>>     girls think about it.
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 2:26 PM, wickedplayer494
>>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>         And where have you been since Payback?
>>
>>
>>         On 7/3/2014 1:16 PM, Marcin Paterek wrote:
>>
>>             Small feature? Valve is literally stealing players from
>>             community servers. Community server operators can't
>>             deliver all game features despite the fact they host THE
>>             SAME game. Some players tend to treat them worse compared
>>             to official servers because of this. The only technical
>>             advantage we have is better tickrate (at least some of
>>             us), but I'm afraid it's only a matter of time - Valve can
>>             easily repeat Counter-Strike: Source scenario.
>>
>>
>>             2014-07-03 18:55 GMT+02:00 Gordon Reynolds
>>             <[email protected]
>>             <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>>
>>
>>                 Wow, this is so not the place for a rant like this.
>>
>>                 While your sentiment is not super far off-base, your
>>                 delivery is overly insulting and the entire diatribe
>>                 just is so crass nobody is going to take anything in
>>                 here with any true seriousness.
>>
>>                 Dropping the f-bomb multiple times and proclaiming the
>>                 devs have "taken a shit" on you is not how you raise
>>                 serious concerns to ANY group of people.
>>
>>                 I cannot see the "partnering dedicated server" issue
>>                 being the reason for this rant, because TF2 has done
>>                 something similar for the Mann Up mode, having rewards
>>                 only obtainable on official servers. At least I hope
>>                 this entire rant wasn't spawned over such a small feature.
>>
>>
>>                 On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 12:00 AM, Fly
>>                 <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>                     Either all VAC-Secured servers, or, more likely,
>>                     Pinion White Label Servers.
>>
>>                     Am 3. Juli 2014 08:44:03 schrieb Marcin Paterek
>>                     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>>
>>
>>                         This may be dumb question, but what is
>>                         "partnering dedicated server"? Changelog:
>>
>>                         Release Notes for 7/2/2014
>>                         [OPERATION BREAKOUT]
>>                         - Missions will now properly reward progress
>>                         on partnering dedicated servers.
>>                         - Fixed graphical glitch with water on cs_rush
>>                         and de_overgrown when shader detail is set to
>>                         medium or low.
>>
>>                         [GAMEPLAY]
>>                         - Fixed the Tec-9 weapon script.
>>
>>                         [MISC]
>>                         - Fixed a rare crash when updating the scoreboard.
>>                         - Zooming out of a sniper scope on a map that
>>                         doesn’t have a post processing entity will no
>>                         longer cause a circular visual artifact.
>>
>>
>>                         2014-07-03 4:21 GMT+02:00 Adam Sydnor
>>                         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>>
>>                         +1
>>
>>
>>                         On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Michael
>>                         Loveless <[email protected]
>>                         <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>                         I really don't like to be this way, especially
>>                         since I'm used to the CS:GO devs taking a shit
>>                         on all of us and I'm sorry that all of you
>>                         have to receive this in your inbox, but I just
>>                         wanna tell the csgo team thank you for fucking
>>                         all of us yet again tonight with their shitty
>>                         little update that now requires all 3 dozen of
>>                         my populated servers to be restarted. You guys
>>                         sit back and rake in tens of millions of
>>                         dollars from this community, but have no
>>                         accountability and irresponsibly hurt the
>>                         communities that have kept your game together.
>>                         What you seem to forget, before your giant
>>                         money making scheme of CS:GO, it was the
>>                         public communities who held your game together
>>                         while you sat back and didn't provide a single
>>                         service other than measly game updates for 1.6
>>                         and Source over the course of 12-13 years,
>>                         whatever. Now that you have the means to
>>                         support us in every way, shape, and form...you
>>                         fuck us week after week. And even worse, you
>>                         can't even give us that nice little heads up
>>                         about incoming updates anymore.  Help your
>>                         public community, stop destroying it. You
>>                         should be ashamed of yourselves you fuckin
>>                         assholes.
>>
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