Wait 7 years and lets talk more if we still exist, because i've been around 9 years doing the same thing. Well, what's left of it anyway.

-ics

Marcin Paterek kirjoitti:
Why do you think monetizing players is an ingorant thing to do?

I don't monetize my players. I build community. Unified label for CS, BF, DayZ and whatever-you-want servers. And it's freaky annoying to see game's producer mess up things you've built for at least 2 years. They don't even care anymore to send us us a message about upcoming patch or changelog.


2014-07-03 23:31 GMT+02:00 ics <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:

    Generally it just depends from the common noise made. A lot of
    people boycotted l4d2, they responded quite swiftly. If a
    clanplayer says something and has 2000 followers, they will react
    quite fast. If non existant server running dude says something
    here, they will not pay attention unless you mail directly a flaw
    to them that is critical or they seem appropriate to comment
    something said here.

    Don't expect that they obey you an answer, because they don't.
    It's not like you are paying for this service. However, it would
    be nice once a while to know they aknowledge the work we do for
    them, for free instead of getting the "talk to the hand" attitude.

    Anycase, raging doesn't help anyone, politeness will result to
    better results.

    -ics

    Ejziponken - kirjoitti:

        I don't think it matters at all how you say something here.
        The respond is always the same from Valve - nonexistent.

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        Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 14:04:36 -0700
        From: [email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        To: [email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] 5 mb update

        I'm not exactly sure why you think I've never seen "big boy
        words", I'm pointing out that a completely block-paragraphed,
        run-on filled, diatribe of swear words is pretty easy to
        ignore; especially when you can get the same exact message 20
        times over by visiting the steam forums.

        I agree that things are not good, but hurling insults really
        isn't constructive at all - when has it ever been?

        Also the note about "Valve is literally stealing players from
        community servers". Lower player count sucks but this costs
        you how much? Are you making money off your users or do you
        just like to see your server always full? Having an empty
        server and having a full server means no real difference in
        the bill you get at the end of the month. If you /are/ somehow
        monetizing your players (which I don't think anyone here is
        ignorant enough to do) - please fall off a bridge.


        On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Michael Loveless
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:

            Welcome to the real world Gordon, where big boys use big boys
            words to describe their thoughts and don't care what other
        boys or
            girls think about it.



            On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 2:26 PM, wickedplayer494
            <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:

                And where have you been since Payback?


                On 7/3/2014 1:16 PM, Marcin Paterek wrote:

                    Small feature? Valve is literally stealing players
        from
                    community servers. Community server operators can't
                    deliver all game features despite the fact they
        host THE
                    SAME game. Some players tend to treat them worse
        compared
                    to official servers because of this. The only
        technical
                    advantage we have is better tickrate (at least some of
                    us), but I'm afraid it's only a matter of time -
        Valve can
                    easily repeat Counter-Strike: Source scenario.


                    2014-07-03 18:55 GMT+02:00 Gordon Reynolds
                    <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>
                    <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>>:


                        Wow, this is so not the place for a rant like
        this.

                        While your sentiment is not super far
        off-base, your
                        delivery is overly insulting and the entire
        diatribe
                        just is so crass nobody is going to take
        anything in
                        here with any true seriousness.

                        Dropping the f-bomb multiple times and
        proclaiming the
                        devs have "taken a shit" on you is not how you
        raise
                        serious concerns to ANY group of people.

                        I cannot see the "partnering dedicated server"
        issue
                        being the reason for this rant, because TF2
        has done
                        something similar for the Mann Up mode, having
        rewards
                        only obtainable on official servers. At least
        I hope
                        this entire rant wasn't spawned over such a
        small feature.


                        On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 12:00 AM, Fly
                        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:

                            Either all VAC-Secured servers, or, more
        likely,
                            Pinion White Label Servers.

                            Am 3. Juli 2014 08:44:03 schrieb Marcin
        Paterek
                            <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>>:


                                This may be dumb question, but what is
                                "partnering dedicated server"? Changelog:

                                Release Notes for 7/2/2014
                                [OPERATION BREAKOUT]
                                - Missions will now properly reward
        progress
                                on partnering dedicated servers.
                                - Fixed graphical glitch with water on
        cs_rush
                                and de_overgrown when shader detail is
        set to
                                medium or low.

                                [GAMEPLAY]
                                - Fixed the Tec-9 weapon script.

                                [MISC]
                                - Fixed a rare crash when updating the
        scoreboard.
                                - Zooming out of a sniper scope on a
        map that
                                doesn’t have a post processing entity
        will no
                                longer cause a circular visual artifact.


                                2014-07-03 4:21 GMT+02:00 Adam Sydnor
                                <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>>:

                                +1


                                On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Michael
                                Loveless <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>
                                <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
                                I really don't like to be this way,
        especially
                                since I'm used to the CS:GO devs
        taking a shit
                                on all of us and I'm sorry that all of you
                                have to receive this in your inbox,
        but I just
                                wanna tell the csgo team thank you for
        fucking
                                all of us yet again tonight with their
        shitty
                                little update that now requires all 3
        dozen of
                                my populated servers to be restarted.
        You guys
                                sit back and rake in tens of millions of
                                dollars from this community, but have no
                                accountability and irresponsibly hurt the
                                communities that have kept your game
        together.
                                What you seem to forget, before your giant
                                money making scheme of CS:GO, it was the
                                public communities who held your game
        together
                                while you sat back and didn't provide
        a single
                                service other than measly game updates
        for 1.6
                                and Source over the course of 12-13 years,
                                whatever. Now that you have the means to
                                support us in every way, shape, and
        form...you
                                fuck us week after week. And even
        worse, you
                                can't even give us that nice little
        heads up
                                about incoming updates anymore.  Help your
                                public community, stop destroying it. You
                                should be ashamed of yourselves you fuckin
                                assholes.

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