Hi, our gameserver account was falsely banned. We DO NOT RUN ANY plugin that give players weapons that they DO NOT own. We do run "always weapon plugin", a plugin, that gives the player HIS ak from HIS OWN inventory when playing CT, for example ( https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=237114 ). Where do I voice my convern for this false ban? Which emailaddresses should I write to? Thanks.
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 7:50 AM, Max Krivanek <[email protected]> wrote: > Vitaliy Genkin's email on 7/715 only references disabling the plugins. > Not deleting them from the server. If someone has a CSGO email list > archive they'll find the email. The quote is, "If your server provides any > of the above services then we request that you disable them." > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:44 AM, Jack M. < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I don't know if that is why they are banning or how they are banning >> servers. >> >> I just saw Ivan Ho mention: >> >> "Let me repeat this. No weapons mods. guns/knife/decoys, whatever. >>> >>> However, I have the knife mod in my disabled folder ever since they made >>> the announcement. If they banned my tokens for that reason, IMO >>> unreasonable." >> >> >> So I was just more so making mention of that could be something to check >> for or a reason for a ban potentially. Not confirmed or anything. >> >> I'd still give contacting Valve a shot explaining like "Hey I didn't know >> we had to full on delete them. I never saw having to do that mentioned. >> Thought they just had to be disabled." >> >> I will say that "*Therefore, we are asking server operators to remove >> any mods and plugins that falsify the contents of a players' profile or >> inventory.*" could be construed as removed from the server. As in >> deleted. If you can actually get through to someone at Valve saying you >> sincerely misunderstood I'd hope they'd be nice enough to unban your >> server(s). >> >> Best of luck. >> >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:30 AM, Max Krivanek <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> If they are banning for plugins that are in the disabled folder of >>> SourceMod (addons/sourcemod/plugins/disabled) then that could explain our >>> ban. As some of those plugins were prior to the July announcement and >>> since they were in the disabled folder, thus not loaded, we didn't feel the >>> need to go delete them. If that is so then it'd be incredibly dishonest, >>> since they only requested the plugins be disabled, not necessarily deleted. >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:06 AM, Jack M. < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> This might fall on deaf ears or you might have already but try to the Valve >>>> Employee Directory. <http://www.valvesoftware.com/company/people.html> To >>>> email Vitaliy or Matt Wood or whoever else is known to handle issues for >>>> CSGO or possibly the issues relating to GSLT's, community management or >>>> development. >>>> >>>> Also here are the rule changes stated months ago with regard to valid >>>> plugins (not how GSLT's will work). >>>> >>>> Therefore, we are asking server operators to remove any mods and >>>>> plugins that falsify the contents of a players' profile or inventory. >>>>> >>>>> To be clear, the services that should not be offered on a community >>>>> server include (but are not limited to): >>>>> >>>>> - Allowing players to claim temporary ownership of CS:GO items >>>>> that are not in their inventory (Weapon skins, knives, etc.). >>>>> - Providing a falsified competitive skill group and/or profile >>>>> rank status or scoreboard coin (e.g., Operation Challenge Coins). >>>>> - Interfering with systems that allow players to correctly access >>>>> their own CS:GO inventories, items, or profile. >>>>> >>>>> If your server provides any of the above services then we request that >>>>> you disable them. If for some reason you are unable or unsure of whether a >>>>> particular plugin should be removed, feel free to contact us. >>>>> >>>> >>>> They come from this reddit post by Wickedplayer >>>> <https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/3ci2ov/vitaliy_genkin_has_sent_a_request_to_community/> >>>> which is just copy pasted from this mailing list I'm like 99% sure. Plus >>>> Wickedplayer's pretty trustworthy and on top of such things. >>>> >>>> Anyway contact them. Be polite and respectful (even if you think it's >>>> bullshit) say you're sorry for any oversight in what you thought you could >>>> or could not do and if there is anything you can do to be unbanned. >>>> >>>> No guarantee if anything will happen or they'll even bother to reply >>>> but worth a shot. >>>> >>>> I will say I personally think the system is designed wrong. Maybe not >>>> inherently in that GSLT exist but the unspecified bans and no way to appeal >>>> is super stupid. Plus scanning and banning for disabled plugins feels >>>> pretty overkill. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 11:39 PM, Max Krivanek <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yeah, 12 years is practically indefinite anyway. CSGO probably won't >>>>> even be played in 12 years. >>>>> >>>>> Either way, this is a very crappy system. I've already expressed >>>>> concerns about the complete lack of security around GSLT. If someone can >>>>> acquire your GSLT token then well, your screwed. Since its obvious >>>>> they're >>>>> in infinite ban mode (why display a date?). They're treating GSLT like >>>>> its >>>>> VAC bans. But this entire system is worse, and obviously designed to >>>>> stifle community servers. I can only guess Valve wishes to go the way of >>>>> CoD:MW2, Titanfall, etc. In not having community servers at all, but >>>>> they're keeping them for now because it'd cause way too much of a backlash >>>>> to just kill community servers. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 11:15 PM, Nathaniel Theis <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The bans are likely indefinite, not in 12 years; they expire in 2038 >>>>>> because of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem . >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 8:31 PM, Max Krivanek <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> > Correction: The ban is apparently for 12 years. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Which of course really sucks, since we don't use any of those >>>>>> plugins. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 8:46 PM, Max Krivanek <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Yup, HeLLsGamers servers were just hit with this ban. Its nice >>>>>> that the >>>>>> >> ban message tells me nothing about why HG servers got banned. >>>>>> Just tells me >>>>>> >> it expires in 2 days. It'd be very nice if we knew why. And as >>>>>> far as I'm >>>>>> >> aware none of HG's servers use retake or any other plugin like it. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 8:32 PM, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek >>>>>> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> There is for me, because I read all those messages. >>>>>> >>> Feel free to find them, it shouldn't be too hard. Until then, >>>>>> please >>>>>> >>> don't be a dick and call "bullshit" on others. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> On 27.01.2016 03:29, Daniel Barreiro wrote: >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> For all we know, when Valve said "custom content" they could have >>>>>> meant >>>>>> >>> "custom knives" and not "existing knives with custom skins". >>>>>> There's no way >>>>>> >>> to 100% know for sure without someone either finding that >>>>>> original message >>>>>> >>> where it was OK'd that Asherkin is referencing, or we get a >>>>>> statement >>>>>> >>> straight from Valve. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:23 PM, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek >>>>>> >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> "he claimed that it's not against Valve's rule" >>>>>> >>>> Depends on what you use it for. >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> That said, sure, go ahead, trust Francisco with anything. rofl >>>>>> >>>> FYI: As all his other plugins, this one is riddled with numerous >>>>>> >>>> (beginner) mistakes. It runs the risk of potentially using >>>>>> uninitialized >>>>>> >>>> memory, and putting that into a query/in the db. >>>>>> >>>> It also improperly uses the admin/command access system. Few >>>>>> things on >>>>>> >>>> top of my head. >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> On 27.01.2016 03:17, Ben Roy wrote: >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> The plugin used was Custom Weapon Models. It can be linked: >>>>>> >>>> https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=276779 >>>>>> >>>> It allows community-made weapon models instead. >>>>>> >>>> Read the OP(plugin link)'s post, he claimed that it's not against >>>>>> >>>> Valve's rule. >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> On 1/26/2016 9:06 PM, Daniel Barreiro wrote: >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> Let's drop the word semantics and view it how it is. >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> Did you let someone use a knife that was not in their inventory. >>>>>> Don't >>>>>> >>>> bullshit "it wasn't a flip knife slaughter, it was just a flip >>>>>> knife". Don't >>>>>> >>>> bullshit "it wasn't an official knife it was a custom one >>>>>> therefore it's >>>>>> >>>> okay!". Don't bullshit "It was the original knife model so it >>>>>> was in their >>>>>> >>>> inventory! I may have put a custom pattern onto that default >>>>>> knife, but the >>>>>> >>>> knife itself was in their inventory! It's totally different than >>>>>> giving a >>>>>> >>>> player with a vanilla karambit a karambit slaughter" >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> Did you let someone use a knife that was not in their inventory. >>>>>> It's >>>>>> >>>> that simple of a question. If you let someone use a knife that >>>>>> was not in >>>>>> >>>> their inventory, you broke the rule. It's that simple. >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:01 PM, Ivan Ho <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Yep, my server has been banned. No custom skins active what so >>>>>> ever. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Anyone else? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> On 27/01/2016 12:46 pm, Absurd Minds wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Custom skins are not "csgo items". They're custom items viewable >>>>>> >>>>> within csgo. >>>>>> >>>>> On Jan 26, 2016 8:44 PM, "Daniel Barreiro" >>>>>> >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Going back to the original message, I see this: >>>>>> >>>>> -Allowing players to claim temporary ownership of CS:GO items >>>>>> that >>>>>> >>>>> are not in their inventory (Weapon skins, knives, etc.). >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Were those knives in their inventory? If yes, then it was a >>>>>> false >>>>>> >>>>> ban. If no, it was a legit ban. >>>>>> >>>>> I'm fairly sure custom knives are CS:GO items that are not in >>>>>> their >>>>>> >>>>> inventory. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 8:32 PM, Kevin C < >>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Our servers were all just hit with a ban of our server tokens. >>>>>> >>>>> Anyone else have this issue? We don't run any knife skin plugins >>>>>> >>>>> after valves announcement, we recently added a custom knife >>>>>> plugin >>>>>> >>>>> that allows players to have knives that are community-made and >>>>>> not >>>>>> >>>>> sold by valve. Based on valves original statement this should be >>>>>> >>>>> allowed. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Our GSLT account has this message: >>>>>> >>>>> Your account has an active ban on its game server tokens. >>>>>> >>>>> This ban expires on Friday, 01-Jan-38 00:00:00 GMT >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> WTF Valve? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>>>> >>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>>>> >>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>>>> >>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>>>> >>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>>>> >>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>>>> >>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>>>> >>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>>>> >>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>>>> >>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>> > Csgo_servers mailing list >>>>>> > [email protected] >>>>>> > >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Have a good one, >>>> Jack McEachern >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Have a good one, >> Jack McEachern >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Csgo_servers mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Csgo_servers mailing list > [email protected] > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >
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