*Jul 10, 2015; 7:51pm  Vitaliy Genkin Vitaliy Genkin*

> (4) Assuming that I’m not granting an item that a player does not own:
> -Is it ok to have a “remove all weapons”/”hide knife” function on a server?
> -Is it ok to have a “knife drop”/”knife switch” function that allows a
> player to drop their knife (that they own) so another player can pick it up?
> *Both of these functions are fine. There are some game modes where it
> makes sense to have unarmed players (e.g., surf), and in a trading server
> being able give a player your knife to inspect is fine too. In general,
> letting players use what they own in a new way isn’t a problem.*



*this claims its fine to switch knives with a player, just as long as A
player HAS the item in HIS inventory, so if its a knife that exists in an
inventory, it should be fine.*


*(source 
http://csgo-servers.1073505.n5.nabble.com/Request-to-Server-Operators-tc9684.html#a9748
<http://csgo-servers.1073505.n5.nabble.com/Request-to-Server-Operators-tc9684.html#a9748>)*



2016-01-27 14:30 GMT+01:00 Nomaan Ahmad <[email protected]>:

> LANI: I am not here to argue but that unapproved plugin can be used in a
> way that it could give weapons to players that they do not own. You can
> write a plugin to use with that unapproved plugin to give butterfly knife
> to people that don't own it. I don't think SM dev unapprove plugins for no
> reason.
>
> On 27 January 2016 at 13:24, Team LANII <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Nomaan: Please read again what I wrote. We DID NOT use a plugin that
>> gives a skin to a player that he does not own.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 2:22 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> They ban in waves, nothing stops them to just generate a new token under
>>> a new account and swap it with the banned one.
>>>
>>> They’ll be fine for the next 3-4 months and then do it again.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It doesn’t really cost much to get a csgo account and a phone number.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> BR,
>>>
>>> Niko
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Absurd Minds
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 27, 2016 14:19
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Csgo_servers] Anyone else hit with a GSLT ban?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not sure that you can trust that valve's method of banning is
>>> effective and error-free. If others in this thread are too be trusted,
>>> there are some servers still running !ws and !knife that are still up.
>>>
>>> On Jan 27, 2016 8:10 AM, "Nomaan Ahmad" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> It seems you are confused. There are 2 plugins... well one is an
>>> extension.
>>>
>>> Always Weapon Skins by Neuro Toxin:
>>> https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=2112938
>>>
>>> GiveNamedItem Econ by Drifter:
>>> https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=236199
>>>
>>> I use the Always Weapons Skin. It does require dhooks and my server
>>> didn't get any bans. I also doubt you would get banned for the extension.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 27 January 2016 at 13:00, Team LANII <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Nomaan: Did you have an old Always Weapon Plugin installed, that needs
>>> to have another plugin installed, named "givenameditem.smx"? If not, an old
>>> version with this dependency could still be the problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Nomaan Ahmad <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I use Always Weapons plugin on my server and they never got banned so it
>>> isn't that. There might be legit bans with some false bans too. If they are
>>> solely relying on player reports then this system is heavily flawed. Server
>>> operator know more about prohibited plugins than players as they always ask
>>> for weapon that aren't in their inventory.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 27 January 2016 at 12:49, Team LANII <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Max: We run various servers with different plugins like DM, AIM, Multi
>>> 1v1, Retakes, BRush, ... Non of the server allowed players to get a weapon
>>> they did not own. We used a plugin called "Always weapon plugin" that
>>> allows players to have THEIR OWN AK skin when playing CT for example
>>> (Imagine a FFA DM server). An old version of this plugin had a dependency
>>> for a plugin called "GiveNameItemEx". This very plugin could build
>>> the basis for others plugins that would allow for Knife/Skinchange to skins
>>> the players doesn't own. I repeat: WE did not use those other plugins, we
>>> hadn't installed them or anything, but we had installed this "base" plugin
>>> that could be used IN COMBINATION ONLY with OTHER, not installed plugins,
>>> for forbidden skinchanges.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Max Krivanek <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Marc, so your server has absolutely no plugins but still got banned?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 6:27 AM, Marc Däumichen <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> My schnitzeltreff surf servers also got hit, and i dont use any plugins
>>> since the announcement.
>>>
>>> First, they ban complete IPs and fuck up providers, and now this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Im probaly out of this...
>>>
>>>
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